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Post by rsmith627 on Sept 29, 2015 9:45:57 GMT -6
It's easy to sit at home and watch Oregon (most years) and Baylor light up the score board.
We run a similar offense at the varsity level so I run it on JV. I only score 35 a game, so I suck.
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Post by 33coach on Sept 29, 2015 9:51:01 GMT -6
It's easy to sit at home and watch Oregon (most years) light up the score board. Yea i wouldnt watch them this year O-verrated
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Post by newt21 on Sept 29, 2015 9:50:58 GMT -6
We lost week 1 and I was getting beat up in the stands. We threw 3 interceptions and couldn't move it on the ground either. It didn't matter what I called. We haven't lost since and now the JV parents love me. We ran inside zone last week and rushed for almost 300 yards. They suddenly love that I keep calling a play if is working. My alma mater's HC has his teams sideline on the opposite side of the home bleachers. I don't think this is because he can't handle the yelling but so the kids don't hear "bah gawd why you runnin the same play coach! It ain't working bag gawd!" We're middle school, and we do this exact same thing. There are only bleachers on one side of the field, we're on the other side. Less distractions and less to have to yell over, it's nirvana compared to the other side!
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Post by dytmook on Sept 29, 2015 10:16:30 GMT -6
This is an instance of not having a school email being a great thing. Though calling games I hear things on occasion. I had a grandma calling me stupid not long ago for calling the same play over and over again. My gut reaction was to say, "look if we can't block long enough to throw a 5 yard hitch, it doesn't matter what I call. It's not going to work" I'm lucky with the JV line has enough kids with the correct numbers and go in the correct direction.
Instead I chuckled, said something to another coach, and continued taking our beatdown. Her daughter in law apologized for her later, which was nice I guess. Didn't hear much from her the next few weeks when we've won 2 of 3. We lost week 1 and I was getting beat up in the stands. We threw 3 interceptions and couldn't move it on the ground either. It didn't matter what I called. We haven't lost since and now the JV parents love me. We ran inside zone last week and rushed for almost 300 yards. They suddenly love that I keep calling a play if is working. I pretty much ran power, IZ, and QB OZ in both wins. Few quick passes. We should really work on only calling plays that work.
Running an offense is easy. I never get stopped in Madden...
And this past weekend was our one true JV home game. there are bleachers on one side of the field so we take the side away from the stands. But there are some hills behind the home side so people can sit there. Sure enough the parents who are a pain post up on the hill...then complain that we are on the far sideline so they can't sit in the bleachers. Site manager told them they are welcome to sit in the bleachers since they are shared due to the size of the field. They didn't move, I'm sure I was an idiot for that.
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Post by KYCoach2331 on Sept 29, 2015 10:32:05 GMT -6
My alma mater's HC has his teams sideline on the opposite side of the home bleachers. I don't think this is because he can't handle the yelling but so the kids don't hear "bah gawd why you runnin the same play coach! It ain't working bag gawd!" They put the away team on the home side? This is brilliant for a lot of reasons. Yes the away team is on the home side
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Post by coachbone53 on Sept 29, 2015 10:47:39 GMT -6
I'm probably not the guy to ask that question, because I confront people on that stuff. I think that's part of the reason no one really questions me to my face or in tough guy email form. Really, anytime I hear a fan say something stupid or attack me, I always invite them to apply for my job or feel free to step across the fence and call a play. In this email's instance I'd invite the guy down to the school or practice and feel free to instruct me as to what techniques or systems I should be running. Usually most people realize they don't know their buttholes from a hole in the ground and sheepishly sink away. Couple years ago I had our PA guy announce before a game that applications to be an assistant coach would be available upon request to all those interested in coaching. No one inquired. Couple years ago we're in the quarterfinals and in a tight game. We were an I team with a TB who ran for 2500yds and FB who went for 1500 that year. So, we're going to run the ball. Especially in a 40 mph wind. The team we were playing did a great job taking our bread and butter away inside so we were frustrated. Call a power, it gets stuffed and a fan screams "Great call! Run it up the middle again Larrymoe!" I turned around and yelled, "Feel free to come out here and call a play you loudmouth". It was pretty quiet the rest of the game. It helps that I'm a pretty big muscular guy who apparently looks about half a second from hulking out on the world too. Larrymoe I think you just became my hero lol
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Post by jasper912 on Sept 29, 2015 12:55:22 GMT -6
^^^ Yes he gave the best advice, and something I am going to use in the future.
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Post by bgj on Sept 29, 2015 20:31:38 GMT -6
a couple emails, ok.
10 emails? maybe they are on to something?
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Post by cfoott on Oct 11, 2015 10:48:22 GMT -6
In my experience, I've only seen this type of thing when we have lost or are having a losing season. Hell, we went 5-0 to start the season, lost our sixth game by 7 points and my wife was telling me that she was hearing people were talk sh*t in the stands about the coaching staff. I'm surprised she didn't confront them, being the fiery Portuguese/Mexican woman that she is. I remember about 10 or so years ago, after a loss a parent got to jawing at the head coach on our way to the bus from the stands. The HC response by inviting him to our sunday meeting to go over strategy. The parent never showed up.
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Post by tango on Oct 11, 2015 11:08:28 GMT -6
First game as HC, I asked my wife if she had to listen to bunch of cramp for the fans. She asked if my parents counted.
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Post by dytmook on Oct 11, 2015 14:26:31 GMT -6
a couple emails, ok. 10 emails? maybe they are on to something? After a few games of Madden and NCAA everyone thinks they can call plays.
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Post by mattharris75 on Oct 11, 2015 22:01:40 GMT -6
I have never received a hate email. I have thought about sending them to officials on occasion, though...
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Post by Coach Bennett on Oct 12, 2015 6:53:02 GMT -6
I'd invite them to stop by my office or field after practice to say it to my face.
Last year I had a parent tell me he hoped I got in a car accident on the way home. This dude lost his legs from the knees down in a car accident.
I calmly smiled/smirked and said "have a great weekend."
At least he had the guts to speak to me face to face.
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Post by CoachMikeJudy on Oct 12, 2015 9:45:29 GMT -6
The minute you start listening to the people in the stands is the moment you are one step closer to sitting next to them...
Don't let it get to you. File it in a separate folder and come back to them later.
I made the mistake my first year as HC (last season) of confronting a fan, at an away game, who was berating coaches AND a player during the game from behind our sideline. He was telling us we suck, we're terrible, and that the kid sucks and needs to be replaced. I lost it- turned around and asked him "Is that helping us win?" and in no nice way told him to sit his a$$ down and shut his a$$ up. He literally stuck around to try to fight me after the game.
Best part was we were playing a team we hadn't beat in 40 years...and we beat them. When we won, I turned around and looked right at the guy and just smiled and clapped. Needless to say the dude isn't allowed in any of sporting events this year.
In retrospect, it was dumb on my part. Why did I engage the idiot? I broke when he attacked the kid...but it could have gone really bad. Someone would have to explain to my son why Daddy is in jail...not worth it.
WHATEVER you do, don't respond negatively. It is a paper trail...best thing to do is save the emails and forward them to your AD and admin- let them know what you are going through. If they don't side with you and help you out then you know exactly where they stand and you should get your resume ready anyway- I wouldn't work for an unsupportive admin no matter what they paid.
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Post by coachwoodall on Oct 13, 2015 19:18:27 GMT -6
In my experience, I've only seen this type of thing when we have lost or are having a losing season. Hell, we went 5-0 to start the season, lost our sixth game by 7 points and my wife was telling me that she was hearing people were talk sh*t in the stands about the coaching staff. I'm surprised she didn't confront them, being the fiery Portuguese/Mexican woman that she is. I remember about 10 or so years ago, after a loss a parent got to jawing at the head coach on our way to the bus from the stands. The HC response by inviting him to our sunday meeting to go over strategy. The parent never showed up. Oh my wife lets them hold it. I have to make sure she sits in the reserved section or on th away side
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Post by realdawg on Oct 14, 2015 10:32:04 GMT -6
Yep. Same here. My wife brings a chair and sits on the track behind the end zone. Even at away games she usually manages to stay out of the stands. Has for about 10 years since another coaches wife got fed up with a parent cussing the coaches and let him have it.
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Post by coachshepherd on Oct 14, 2015 20:12:22 GMT -6
I heard a funny one from the stands during a game that it rained the whole time, 2" of rain during game time. We won 6 to 0...at one point in the game, during the monsoon, I heard someone yell, "Open up the playbook coach!"
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Post by gibbs72 on Oct 25, 2015 21:23:39 GMT -6
I just got about 10 emails telling me how much I suck. I guess its good the fan base is engaged. how do you handle it. this is my favorite You are an embarrassment mostly because you are a stupid idiot. The only thing I look forward to in this season is you getting fired. You have taken a team that has so much talent and reduced it to nothing. Honestly, Football for dummies was written for you. You are a {censored} idiot quit coaching and take up something like checkers where you can only hurt yourself. When you get fired, Mc donalds won't hire you because you will be to stupid to do that. Maybe you can explain why your so stupid to a rock. P.S. you are ******** bitch "Hugs and kisses"--- Head Ball Coach
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Post by ItalianStallion on Nov 20, 2015 9:04:56 GMT -6
Late to the party but we had a few fun dad emails this season.
Dad 1- CB last season, hurts shoulder, doctor apparently says "joe" can't play defense next year after surgery. Never heard that excuse in my life but whatever, we'll go with it he's decent athlete with good hands, go to WR. (Side note:Can't remember what to do on offense.) Toward end of season...after already receiving one email from Dad a few weeks earlier... Kid plays most offensive snaps all year, most targets, most catches, only TD, by far best game of his career. Dad emails Saturday morning questioning Kid's playing time.
Dad 2- Son is QB. a Good one at that. Takes pictures at games. Every Saturday-Sunday uploads pictures and emails them to O-Line Coach and D-Coordinator with coaching tips for the OL and that we stunt too much on D and so and so on the bench could fill a need at certain position (we ignored until maybe week 6-7 until OL coach wrote back something like "thanks but we see everything you're trying to tell us") Guess he imagined the film him and his son watched on Hudl wasn't available to coaches.
I coach in the box so I hear all kinds of good stuff, grandparents on the top rows are entertaining for sure. We throw- Run the ball. We run- pass the ball. We go for it- Kick it. We kick it- go for it.
Can't win even when you win. It's always something just have to pick your battles.
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Post by 33coach on Nov 20, 2015 19:58:02 GMT -6
Only once did I react to a parents complaint.
This guy was a nobody, but liked to tell people that he was "on the roster" with an nfl team during the 2000s (which I quickly confirmed he wasn't.)
He went to other parents telling them we didn't know what we were doing. That our offensive issues were scheme and not players (if they only widened their splits... Type stuff)
It finally came back to me that he was even going as far as telling people that he was going to punch me if I ever talked to him...
So what did I do? In front of as many parents were there that day, I walked right up put my hand out to shake his, and as loud as I could started talking to him about his NFL playing days, but the conversation was quick.... he couldn't recall his coach, or the scheme they ran, or any of his teammates...how odd...
He didn't show up much after that..
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Post by rsmith627 on Nov 20, 2015 20:18:20 GMT -6
Only once did I react to a parents complaint. This guy was a nobody, but liked to tell people that he was "on the roster" with an nfl team during the 2000s (which I quickly confirmed he wasn't.) He went to other parents telling them we didn't know what we were doing. That our offensive issues were scheme and not players (if they only widened their splits... Type stuff) It finally came back to me that he was even going as far as telling people that he was going to punch me if I ever talked to him... So what did I do? In front of as many parents were there that day, I walked right up put my hand out to shake his, and as loud as I could started talking to him about his NFL playing days, but the conversation was quick.... he couldn't recall his coach, or the scheme they ran, or any of his teammates...how odd... He didn't show up much after that.. Sent from my VS986 using Tapatalk Was this at the middle school level too? I'm not asking to ever diminish middle school ball. I don't have the patience to deal with that sh!t and would never want to do it. Mostly though, I'm finding joy that you guys deal with the same kinds of asshats that we do.
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Post by 33coach on Nov 20, 2015 20:55:37 GMT -6
Only once did I react to a parents complaint. This guy was a nobody, but liked to tell people that he was "on the roster" with an nfl team during the 2000s (which I quickly confirmed he wasn't.) He went to other parents telling them we didn't know what we were doing. That our offensive issues were scheme and not players (if they only widened their splits... Type stuff) It finally came back to me that he was even going as far as telling people that he was going to punch me if I ever talked to him... So what did I do? In front of as many parents were there that day, I walked right up put my hand out to shake his, and as loud as I could started talking to him about his NFL playing days, but the conversation was quick.... he couldn't recall his coach, or the scheme they ran, or any of his teammates...how odd... He didn't show up much after that.. Sent from my VS986 using Tapatalk Was this at the middle school level too? I'm not asking to ever diminish middle school ball. I don't have the patience to deal with that sh!t and would never want to do it. Mostly though, I'm finding joy that you guys deal with the same kinds of asshats that we do. Yep this was my first year in MS ball after leaving the HS world. Sent from my VS986 using Tapatalk
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Post by jmg999 on Nov 20, 2015 21:15:17 GMT -6
Coach, you could choose to ignore this type of e-mail, or you could do something a bit more elaborate. Create an e-mail address on a public server, such as Google or Yahoo, copy/paste the body of this e-mail into a new e-mail, and respond to the originating author. Explain that you received this e-mail that was obviously meant for the head coach of their favorite NFL team, but somehow, it wound up in your inbox. W/ a little luck, they'll reply to you by saying that it was meant for the HC of a high school team. You can respond w/, "You were sending this e-mail to a high school head coach, someone who chooses to mentor our youth by teaching them the values of teamwork, sportsmanship, and the ability to focus on a shared goal? What a noble venture! I wholeheartedly support your efforts." I'd go out on a limb, and guess that the originator of the e-mail would not be too happy that their message had not only been mocked but also not heard by their intended party, and they would fire a new missive to your school e-mail address. For every one of those e-mails you receive, forward them to your new e-mail address, and write back, explaining that their efforts in getting their point across were failing more miserably by the e-mail. If shortly thereafter, your school's IT department has received an angry phone call explaining that e-mails sent to school e-mail addresses are being rerouted, you will know that your efforts have borne fruit.
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Post by lions23 on Nov 20, 2015 21:23:17 GMT -6
My wife is an Ohio State fanatic. I asked her once if it bothered her that people were yelling at us. She replied I've been yelling at Jim Tressell and Urban Meyer for years about play calling. You aren't as good as them and if they get yelled, I think this is what you signed up for. I had a good laugh. She then reminded me that 5 years ago I was complaining about no one in the stands.
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Post by s73 on Nov 20, 2015 22:01:08 GMT -6
I just got about 10 emails telling me how much I suck. I guess its good the fan base is engaged. how do you handle it. this is my favorite You are an embarrassment mostly because you are a stupid idiot. The only thing I look forward to in this season is you getting fired. You have taken a team that has so much talent and reduced it to nothing. Honestly, Football for dummies was written for you. You are a {censored} idiot quit coaching and take up something like checkers where you can only hurt yourself. When you get fired, Mc donalds won't hire you because you will be to stupid to do that. Maybe you can explain why your so stupid to a rock. P.S. you are ******** bitch Coach one of the greatest pieces of advice I ever received was from a local legend in our area. I naively assumed that he never got any type of flack b/c he had been so successful and he went on to tell me multiple stories about some garbage he received the week he was playing for a STATE TITLE!!! So I said did that drive you crazy? I mean here you are reaching the pinnacle of your profession and people are still pissed at you? And he went on to give me this priceless piece of advice that I will never forget. He said, "When you walk down the street & you see a piece of dog$hit laying on the sidewalk, would you stop to look at it? "Would you waste any time thinking about it?" "Would you stop & talk to it?" I said "No". He says, "Then why would you talk to a parent?"
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Post by workboots on Nov 22, 2015 8:21:30 GMT -6
I didn't get into coaching to call plays. Being in a small town, you get to know real quick which folks to avoid. Breakfast with my wife on a Sunday morning in early June, and the old guy at next table wants to give me a few pointers on our D line's stance. I tell him I don't even coach D line, and that I'd rather not talk about football right now. Ignoring that, he continues to tell me what a bad job we're doing and that rival #1 is going to tear us a new one and such. I got too flustered and told to shut his trap in the not so nice way. What he did next almost cost me job.
He looks at my wife and asks her how much I payed her for the night, and other bull spit like that. Right as I get up, the restaurant owner comes over and tells me to sit down and finish my meal and tells the other guy to hit the road or he'd call the cops. He tucks tail and walks out.
When you get in these kinds of situations it's best to just ignore them or or give them the "we'll look into it". You'll go crazy trying to make all the fans happy.
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Post by coachbdud on Nov 22, 2015 10:56:16 GMT -6
Couple weeks ago in the middle of our rivalry game for league title
I get a Facebook message mid game Not a real person, fake name
Long message about how horrible of an OC I am, peewee offense, can't game plan, how terrible I am blah blah blah
We ended up winning, I replied after the game with a "thanks for your support"
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Post by lochness on Nov 22, 2015 11:01:29 GMT -6
Sports, perhaps more than anything else, bring out the best and the worst in humanity.
There are some sick people out there.
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Post by bignose on Nov 22, 2015 11:35:26 GMT -6
In 2010 we won a State Championship running the DW. We threw the ball 3 times in the State Championship game.
Darned if the next day we didn't get an email from an irate parent complaining that we weren't doing enough to help his son earn a scholarship as a wide receiver. He graduated and became a starting defensive back for an FBC program.
I'm sure that the writer didn't include his name. You have his email address. I would only reply with a positive response (while really wanting to tell the writer what an A-hole he was, it would accomplish nothing except to help you vent and could be turned around and bite you in the butt)
I'd share this with your school administration if you are coaching at that level. After speaking to the administrator, you could then reply to the guy asking if they would be interested in a conference where they could express his thoughts. Most of these internet trolls are chicken bleep in person.
A couple of thoughts: Kill them with success and bury them with a smile. Never waste your time trying to explain yourself to people who are committed to misunderstand you.
And my favorite: From Coach Frank Rhoades, a long time mentor:" "During the season, wish they was all orphans!"
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Post by freezeoption on Nov 22, 2015 19:37:39 GMT -6
I had to walk the hc back to the locker room after a game, the coach's wife said she heard that one of the players dad was going to go after him after the game, one school I was the hc at I had to deal with all this crap, had a parent ask me if I watched some nfl show that was on that went through the breakdowns of plays, I said no, I don't have time to watch that because I busy with hc stuff, he said maybe that is why we are not doing good, he also asked me one time why his kid wasn't getting more playing time, I said he can't remember what to do, what it really was his kid was a penis and would not do what he was supposed to do, he said I thought you weren't playing him because you thought we were jewish, I said you could be atheist for all I care, if he does what he's supposed to he plays
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