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Post by coachphillip on Sept 17, 2015 14:38:03 GMT -6
Another thread got me thinking ... Is it really that hard for some guys to find volunteer positions in their areas? When I started coaching, my HS HC threw me a whistle and said I start on Monday. I filled out all the paperwork as I went and coached the summer after I was done playing ball. Some guys ask me to coach and I always get away from the conversation so they ask a few times and I know they're serious. But, I tell them all the same thing in the end, "It don't pay a penny, but if you're here every day and willing to work hard every waking minute then welcome to the freshman staff."
Some of the guys on here are talking about not being able to get on staff. One guy was thinking about writing notes to prove his worth. One guy wants to take college courses to improve his chances of getting on somewhere. We see more than a few "How do I begin coaching?" threads every offseason. What is the job climate like in your area?
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Post by 33coach on Sept 17, 2015 14:40:07 GMT -6
in our area, walk onto any campus or to any of our youth chapters and you will have a job in minutes as long as you can pass DOJ.
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Post by mariner42 on Sept 17, 2015 15:06:21 GMT -6
I'm waiting on getting a kid that I coached a few years back on staff. He had to have a TB test done before he can go in and pay to have his fingerprints run (he can start after that) and then he has to take a coaching course and pass that ASAP or he's canned next year.
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Post by newt21 on Sept 18, 2015 6:38:09 GMT -6
I put very because in my current situation (teaching middle school) we get out after all high schools and there's 0 chance of getting onto a staff, even as a volunteer. Finding a teaching job in my field is next to impossible unless you already have an "in". The high school staff I was on in the past, took 0% of my input regardless of what it was just because I coached middle school before and it was my first year on staff also. So in my experience, the "very" answer fits perfectly.
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Post by CoachMikeJudy on Sept 18, 2015 6:59:18 GMT -6
I voted somewhat-
There is plenty of need for volunteers- I know we have them and I could use 2 more.
The "somewhat" part is from my perspective- getting guys who have a perfectly squeaky clean background check, and whose career allows them to be at practice 3:30-5:30 is what makes it tough. Hard to find good people with these two essentials in my area.
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Post by tigerpride on Sept 18, 2015 8:51:19 GMT -6
Northern Kentucky is in need of coaches. I know several coaches, including myself, who are constantly looking for coaches at all levels.
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Post by 33coach on Sept 18, 2015 9:08:35 GMT -6
Northern Kentucky is in need of coaches. I know several coaches, including myself, who are constantly looking for coaches at all levels. hmmmmmm hows the weather in Northern Kentucky? |
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Post by KYCoach2331 on Sept 20, 2015 1:06:57 GMT -6
Northern Kentucky is in need of coaches. I know several coaches, including myself, who are constantly looking for coaches at all levels. I could take you up on that if you're needing someone a few years from now when I get my degree! Your username makes me think you're BW but your posts make me assume DH. I haven't tested the job market yet here (Eastern Kentucky) in my area but when I played we had about 6 coaches when we took our team picture. One left to go back to his old school, but we got two more guys after that before the season and one made it about halfway through the season before he got asked not to come back. Of that staff only one original member remains, plus the one who left us and went back to his old school is now the defensive coordinator there. The HC is at the college level, DB/special teams is at his alma mater I think as the defensive coordinator (he's also on this board so I can't talk bad about him  ) only the QB coach remains that finished that season. But 100+ HC jobs have opened up in the state the past two years I'm pretty sure so if you apply for enough I'm pretty sure you can get something, and if there's that many HC jobs I can't even imagine the number of assistants because most are volunteer work/teachers anyways. |
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Post by KYCoach2331 on Sept 20, 2015 1:08:04 GMT -6
Northern Kentucky is in need of coaches. I know several coaches, including myself, who are constantly looking for coaches at all levels. hmmmmmm hows the weather in Northern Kentucky? Also In Kentucky you can experience all 4 seasons during the spring in one day. |
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Post by dytmook on Sept 20, 2015 16:37:54 GMT -6
I guess it depends if you already know coaches in the area and what level you want to coach. If you want to be a JV coach and help with a position I don't think it would be hard to get a job around here in SW Ohio at a program. I mean I don't think you're going to walk into a GCL South school and be like "what's up I'm here to coach and call the offense!!!", but if you wanted to help at a small school I'm sure you could contact a few coaches and find a place to help out at.
I can see it being more difficult if you don't have a contact so I'll say somewhat, but really I think a lot of people want the glory without the work and when they find out about the grind they are out.
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Post by hunhdisciple on Sept 21, 2015 2:28:21 GMT -6
I'll echo the fact that there are plenty of openings in Kentucky. Lots of openings and as far as I've seen, most schools are willing to take a guy in as a volunteer with the only stipulation being the background check (obviously).
It's a good state to coach in.
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Post by wingtol on Sept 21, 2015 5:16:48 GMT -6
I would say around here it just depends on the school. We are a decent sized city with some nicer suburban districts and also some very rural districts, so there are issues each staff would deal with when hiring guys. I guess it also comes down to the HC some guys I know will hire and bring in outsiders or people they don't know, others like our staff are very close and don't look outside our circle for coaches or to be honest aren't receptive to any cold calls by guys looking to coach.
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Post by 33coach on Sept 21, 2015 9:03:28 GMT -6
hmmmmmm hows the weather in Northern Kentucky? Also In Kentucky you can experience all 4 seasons during the spring in one day. sounds like im going to stay in Cali then. i like my 1 season a year. |
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Post by blb on Sept 21, 2015 9:46:10 GMT -6
Also In Kentucky you can experience all 4 seasons during the spring in one day. sounds like im going to stay in Cali then. i like my 1 season a year.
...with the wild fires, mud slides, earthquakes, and drought.
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Post by 33coach on Sept 21, 2015 9:56:11 GMT -6
sounds like im going to stay in Cali then. i like my 1 season a year.
...with the wild fires, mud slides, earthquakes, and drought.
i didnt say it was an enjoyable season. :-P |
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Post by texcoach12 on Sept 21, 2015 11:43:09 GMT -6
In Texas a coach must be full time employee of the school, no exceptions. That doesn't necessarily mean a teacher, but no one just volunteers without a position in the school.
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Post by 33coach on Sept 21, 2015 11:45:13 GMT -6
In Texas a coach must be full time employee of the school, no exceptions. That doesn't necessarily mean a teacher, but no one just volunteers without a position in the school. thats strange to me. are school districts that diverse in their positions offered? as a software engineer could i get a job at the school? |
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Post by texcoach12 on Sept 21, 2015 11:49:01 GMT -6
In Texas a coach must be full time employee of the school, no exceptions. That doesn't necessarily mean a teacher, but no one just volunteers without a position in the school.
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Post by fshamrock on Sept 21, 2015 11:58:58 GMT -6
In Texas a coach must be full time employee of the school, no exceptions. That doesn't necessarily mean a teacher, but no one just volunteers without a position in the school. thats strange to me. are school districts that diverse in their positions offered? as a software engineer could i get a job at the school? probably not, unless you wanted to take the certification test and teach computer class.....but you're going to get paid like a teacher...not like a software engineer. I've never heard of a district technology support employee being a coach, I'm sure it could happen, but they don't make squat compared to the private sector either. |
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Post by texcoach12 on Sept 22, 2015 12:57:41 GMT -6
I'd have to agree with shamrock. The schools technology director usually has a few a few classes, and is free the rest of the day to tend to whatever the hell tech guys tend to ha. but he gets paid as a teacher plus a decent stipend for the tech stuff, at least that's how it is where I'm at.
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Post by ksmitty79 on Sept 23, 2015 20:41:24 GMT -6
The problem we are having is we have 3 of the 7 coaches in the building (one of them is the previous head coach that retired coaching not teaching. (asked to coach WR out of necessity) 2 at another school, 1 is a Window salesman and myself which work for a non-profit. We have had several teaching positions come available over the last couple of years (Math, Social Studies, Science you name it.) We have recommended several football coaches for these position to no avail. Meanwhile we have a PE teacher the doesn't coach ANYTHING. Unfortunately, We live in a community that doesn't have middle school football and the majority of the football players have had Dads with very little football knowledge. The time commitment and the hurdles volunteers have to go through these days push prospected people away. The whole process can takes months if they "forget" to add a volunteer to board agenda to get approved. That is why I said Very!
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Post by IronmanFootball on Sept 27, 2015 14:37:21 GMT -6
I'm an assistant coach short. I had a veteran guy I really liked, he quit bc of pay. I got another guy that was younger but good, he quit for a better job. I had another nother guy, a rookie, but he quit for a full time gig at a car dealer.
Now I'm HC/OC/DC WR/DB coach.
I have an OL/DL guy. A RB/LB/STC guy. and a QB guy that's only there 3 days / week.
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Post by souza12 on Sept 28, 2015 21:26:46 GMT -6
I like to think i can get a job at any struggling program.. jus as anyone else. at established programs it would seem you would need some sort of connection that can attest to your character as people want to protect their program
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Post by fbs on Sept 30, 2015 14:37:32 GMT -6
to answer some of the Texas questions: we don't really have a shortage of coaches in this state. Generally, we can fill our staffs with full time teachers that are coaches (we all see it the other way around), but again, you must have your teaching certificate to even be considered. We do not take volunteers for any reason, and this is mostly a liability concern. Even in the inner city schools in dallas and houston we don't have a problem with this... now the quality of coaches and teachers in those areas is a whole other conversation, but they are all certified.
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Post by mc140 on Oct 5, 2015 22:38:44 GMT -6
In the Chicago area it is not hard to find somewhere to volunteer. It is more difficult to go through all of the hoops (ASEP, Background Check, Physical, etc) to actually volunteer.
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Post by tdg81 on Oct 12, 2015 1:23:03 GMT -6
Northern Kentucky is in need of coaches. I know several coaches, including myself, who are constantly looking for coaches at all levels. I would love to come down and coach I am very good with the zone read and option offense I have been coaching for 10 yrs at the youth level I also love to run 4-3 and cover 2 |
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Post by tdg81 on Oct 12, 2015 1:23:24 GMT -6
hit me up if you guys need someone
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Post by tdg81 on Oct 12, 2015 1:25:49 GMT -6
The problem we are having is we have 3 of the 7 coaches in the building (one of them is the previous head coach that retired coaching not teaching. (asked to coach WR out of necessity) 2 at another school, 1 is a Window salesman and myself which work for a non-profit. We have had several teaching positions come available over the last couple of years (Math, Social Studies, Science you name it.) We have recommended several football coaches for these position to no avail. Meanwhile we have a PE teacher the doesn't coach ANYTHING. Unfortunately, We live in a community that doesn't have middle school football and the majority of the football players have had Dads with very little football knowledge. The time commitment and the hurdles volunteers have to go through these days push prospected people away. The whole process can takes months if they "forget" to add a volunteer to board agenda to get approved. That is why I said Very! |
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Post by tdg81 on Oct 12, 2015 1:26:24 GMT -6
I am always looking for a coaching job
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) only the QB coach remains that finished that season. 
