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Post by John Knight on Sept 18, 2015 11:53:34 GMT -6
The last few years I coached we had to do shower duty. Someone had to be in the locker room while they showered. CYA thing. BRRRR
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Post by Chris Clement on Sept 18, 2015 12:26:28 GMT -6
That's more than a little creepy.
I hate laminating and cutting wristband cards. Just min-numbing. I'm really glad I got to delegate that this year.
Tracking all our drug testing stuff is also a major drag, because of the people I'm forced to work with. I have to herd cats to get all the players' info and then deal with an administrative nincompoop at the other end.
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Post by olinedude on Sept 18, 2015 14:44:09 GMT -6
I agree with picture day. Worst day of the year. 2nd worst is fundraiser days, necessary, but terrible.
I also hate keeping up with kids grades. I hate it. Its my least favorite thing about teaching and coaching. How can you struggle to pass high school? I mean they basically give you a diploma if you show up enough days breathing, and yet I've got to chase down varsity starters and get them in tutorials because they can't pass remedial keyboarding with sped modifications.
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Post by coachphillip on Sept 18, 2015 15:41:55 GMT -6
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Post by jgordon1 on Sept 18, 2015 22:23:45 GMT -6
fantom I too used to hate putting the plays in plastic. I now draw all my plays on card stock..If it gets ruined for some reason I just draw it again. I can draw a play as quick as I can put it in the damm plastic thing. I also spend more "time" looking for plays I have already drawn than actually drawing them but alas I continue to look Jerry, we draw them up in Playmaker and save them. For some teams we use the same cards for years, Just have to print them next year. Putting them in plastic is a PITA but it makes it easier for the scout team coach. I might hate the job but if it makes it easier for him and makes us more efficient I'll live with it. Its interesting I NEVER seem to be able to use my cards again..BTW we just played our 3rd "wing t"team in 4 weeks..couldn'y use a damn card.. not sure why everyone changes what Tubby did..like the book says it an order of football but to my advantage the coaches don't follow the order SMH
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2015 7:23:53 GMT -6
Jerry, we draw them up in Playmaker and save them. For some teams we use the same cards for years, Just have to print them next year. Putting them in plastic is a PITA but it makes it easier for the scout team coach. I might hate the job but if it makes it easier for him and makes us more efficient I'll live with it. Its interesting I NEVER seem to be able to use my cards again..BTW we just played our 3rd "wing t"team in 4 weeks..couldn'y use a damn card.. not sure why everyone changes what Tubby did..like the book says it an order of football but to my advantage the coaches don't follow the order SMH Because you can't take credit for it if using tubby' s terminology. There would be great shame in calling what it was. ?
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Post by freezeoption on Sept 19, 2015 9:06:54 GMT -6
i like football, been doing it for a long time, not as long as some on here, i still dislike parents that have no clue, or the ones that might have a little clue so they think they can make more suggestions, one parent asked me if we had a chance with the team we played Friday, i said, anything can happen but, they are the second best team in the state and we just loss to the best team in the state 74-0, the second best beat us 80-0, there running back had 21 carries for 324 and 9 tds, another one came up to me and started to try to tell me how to get more kids out, i listened to it, nicely, then said we offer some bells and whistles, but basically it comes down to the kid saying i want to play football and the extra work that comes with it, and the parents need to make it a priority for there kid to come to the off season and summer workouts, then the parent looks at me and says that pretty much sums it up
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Post by jg78 on Sept 19, 2015 11:45:12 GMT -6
Right now it's Sunday meetings. I am the DC with very little help on my side of the ball. I do all the scheming myself. Our HC is the OC and likes to talk. We can sit there as a staff talking seemingly forever about things that have nothing to do with our current football team. If I had a dollar for every war story I have heard about what happened at some school years ago I could pay for a nice vacation at the end of the season. He also almost always shows up at least a few minutes late, which really grinds my gears because I hate tardiness. But anyway, what I do now is save my tendency work for the meeting so that I have something productive to do while the HC is in monologue. And then when I have been there long enough, I excuse myself and go home.
I work hard at what I do and get along with everyone on our staff, but I hate wasted time and long BS sessions. I want to do what's necessary and then leave.
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Post by coachwoodall on Sept 19, 2015 16:13:11 GMT -6
Woody, it is a wonder I never choked the CHIT out of some one!! Yeah, I'm like, "they know how to line up to the trips left......"
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Post by coachwoodall on Sept 19, 2015 16:16:13 GMT -6
Just finished painting the field, as I mentioned earlier, I hate rolling up the string. So I made some JV kids in wt training class do it. But I also hate painting the numbers. Bending over so much (we use spray cans) makes my hamstrings hurt. If you do the spray can thing, it's easier to just do it ever 3 days. Hit it on Sun/Mon, lay it thick on Thursday.
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Post by coachwoodall on Sept 19, 2015 16:20:43 GMT -6
The last few years I coached we had to do shower duty. Someone had to be in the locker room while they showered. CYA thing. BRRRR "HEY, you don't need to wash it that much"
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Post by carookie on Sept 19, 2015 18:01:56 GMT -6
Listening to other coaches motivational stories...I don't care about some hard working teammate you had 30 years ago and neither do the kids, but we keep wasting hours a week with it
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Post by coachwoodall on Sept 19, 2015 18:22:57 GMT -6
Listening to other coaches motivational stories...I don't care about some hard working teammate you had 30 years ago and neither do the kids, but we keep wasting hours a week with it And if in 2015 there isn't any/many hard working team mates, is it still irrelevant? Are kids today incapable of empathy? Is the staff not empathetic enough?
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Post by fantom on Sept 19, 2015 18:36:52 GMT -6
Listening to other coaches motivational stories...I don't care about some hard working teammate you had 30 years ago and neither do the kids, but we keep wasting hours a week with it And if in 2015 there isn't any/many hard working team mates, is it still irrelevant? Are kids today incapable of empathy? Is the staff not empathetic enough? The coaches may have heard the stories many times but the kids haven't.
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Post by rsmith627 on Sept 19, 2015 19:15:42 GMT -6
I hate when the coaches talk forever after practice. I get made fun of for never really saying anything...or I could say the same crap the other coaches say everyday. I swear they just go around paraphrasing each other.
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Post by carookie on Sept 19, 2015 19:46:38 GMT -6
Listening to other coaches motivational stories...I don't care about some hard working teammate you had 30 years ago and neither do the kids, but we keep wasting hours a week with it And if in 2015 there isn't any/many hard working team mates, is it still irrelevant? Are kids today incapable of empathy? Is the staff not empathetic enough? Here in CA we are limited in the amount of time we get with the kids. I don't like the idea that of spending 10% of our time telling motivational stories that the kids have hear many times over. Or taking 20 minutes at the end of every practice to explain to the kids why they gotta be tough. Empathy has nothing to do with it; efficiently using the time we have is what I'm talking about. Words are like money, the more thats out there the less it is worth.
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Post by carookie on Sept 19, 2015 19:47:52 GMT -6
And if in 2015 there isn't any/many hard working team mates, is it still irrelevant? Are kids today incapable of empathy? Is the staff not empathetic enough? The coaches may have heard the stories many times but the kids haven't. In my case, the kids have hears the stories. Some of them play Bingo because they know the stories/name drops that are coming.
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Post by mrjvi on Sept 19, 2015 19:58:27 GMT -6
I've never met as a staff on Sunday in my 25 years as a head coach. We did it when I was an assistant and I hated it. Each coach will individually meet if they need to but we have been together a while and e-mail or phone calls cover it. We meet on Monday some before practice and a short time after-kids do weights and film /plan of week. We actually don't meet on Saturdays either. We might have a game or a JV game. Maybe it's why I've had low turnover on my staff. They can actually be a parent. We've been to the State final 4 times so I guess I feel it might not be necessary. I'm as competitive as anyone but it is HS football. How much time do you need?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2015 21:04:02 GMT -6
The war stories always come when somebody doesn't measure up. Normally it's somebody who no chance to be previous player. I think it's bad coaching talking about yester year. Worry about the kids we have this year.
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Post by souza12 on Sept 19, 2015 23:26:58 GMT -6
I've never met as a staff on Sunday in my 25 years as a head coach. We did it when I was an assistant and I hated it. Each coach will individually meet if they need to but we have been together a while and e-mail or phone calls cover it. We meet on Monday some before practice and a short time after-kids do weights and film /plan of week. We actually don't meet on Saturdays either. We might have a game or a JV game. Maybe it's why I've had low turnover on my staff. They can actually be a parent. We've been to the State final 4 times so I guess I feel it might not be necessary. I'm as competitive as anyone but it is HS football. How much time do you need? at times, it truly feels like programs just one up each other on the amount of time they put in.. idk
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Post by silkyice on Sept 20, 2015 6:28:12 GMT -6
I think it's bad coaching talking about yester year. Worry about the kids we have this year. That is a pretty blanket statement there. No one wants to here a million stories or endless speeches. But, appropriate and well timed speeches or stories from an experienced coach can be very valuable. Most likely the story is told because the coach IS worrying about the kids this year.
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Post by jlenwood on Sept 20, 2015 7:22:23 GMT -6
-I don't mind painting our practice field. I am kind of picky about that and I don't think anyone else takes the time or cares that the practice field is laid out correctly, I do so I do it. -Parents. I am an assistant so I don't have to deal with any heavy issues one on one with parents, but we still get the same "why are you guys doing this" or that crap. Doesn't really bother me because I know what's going on and so why waste time being stressed about what some well meaning but ill informed parent/fan thinks. Just nod and move on. -Scout stuff drives me nuts, but it really is an opportunity to teach the 2nd and 3rd level players the game, so use the time as such.
So, saying I can deal with all of the above and not "hate" any of it, there are several things I absolutely HATE!
Number 1 by far.....the absolutely biggest waste of time ever invented with HS sports, the awards night at the end of the fall season. Please Mr. AD, just give us a $100 and let us get some pizza for the football players and families and leave us out of your program. I really could care less about how the Cross Country team did, or how well the girls tennis did, or on and on and on.
Number 2....bus rides. I know it is all about safety, but does a bus really need to have a top speed of 50 mph. Maybe it is because the driver is getting paid overtime and wants to take his time, but come on.
And on a serious note, I hate when I find out about a kid whose home life is so wrecked and crazy that I just want to shoot some of the "parents" of our players. Had a kid the other night tell me that he only eats well on our team dinner night. Man that is heartbreaking. You have other kids who sometimes are basically living as homeless kids, and yet their parents can still afford $6 a pack cigarettes. I have a hard time holding my tongue when dealing with those piles of $hit.
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Post by blb on Sept 20, 2015 7:30:56 GMT -6
Number 2....bus rides. I know it is all about safety, but does a bus really need to have a top speed of 50 mph. Maybe it is because the driver is getting paid overtime and wants to take his time, but come on. And on a serious note, I hate when I find out about a kid whose home life is so wrecked and crazy that I just want to shoot some of the "parents" of our players. Had a kid the other night tell me that he only eats well on our team dinner night. Man that is heartbreaking. You have other kids who sometimes are basically living as homeless kids, and yet their parents can still afford $6 a pack cigarettes. I have a hard time holding my tongue when dealing with those piles of $hit.
Big Yellow Taxi rides suck. One of caveats for job I have now is I drive to away games. At one (big) school I was header we took charter for all trips over half an hour.
It is amazing that, considering their home lives, some kids have turn out half as good as they do.
Also, I have checked my degree and teaching certificate: Nothing about maintenance or grounds keeping on them. I know it's commonplace in the South but I wouldn't have taken a job where I had to paint or mow fields.
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Post by jlenwood on Sept 20, 2015 8:45:37 GMT -6
Number 2....bus rides. I know it is all about safety, but does a bus really need to have a top speed of 50 mph. Maybe it is because the driver is getting paid overtime and wants to take his time, but come on. And on a serious note, I hate when I find out about a kid whose home life is so wrecked and crazy that I just want to shoot some of the "parents" of our players. Had a kid the other night tell me that he only eats well on our team dinner night. Man that is heartbreaking. You have other kids who sometimes are basically living as homeless kids, and yet their parents can still afford $6 a pack cigarettes. I have a hard time holding my tongue when dealing with those piles of $hit.
Big Yellow Taxi rides suck. One of caveats for job I have now is I drive to away games. At one (big) school I was header we took charter for all trips over half an hour.
It is amazing that, considering their home lives, some kids have turn out half as good as they do.
Also, I have checked my degree and teaching certificate: Nothing about maintenance or grounds keeping on them. I know it's commonplace in the South but I wouldn't have taken a job where I had to paint or mow fields.
Our game field is taken care of by the school maintenance guys, but the practice field is kind of a "you're on your own" situation. The maintenance dept is still supposed to do it I think, but they never do. I guarantee my next gig will have a stipulation that I ain't ridin' no bus.
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Post by freezeoption on Sept 20, 2015 10:09:19 GMT -6
heck, like I said I hate dealing with parents, but I have been here long enough if the suckers want to get rid of me I still got my teaching, a good story at the right time is important, kids have little empathy now, I keep my stories and short and to the point and only do probably one a week, if kids cared more for each other than what I get, or i'm tired and sore and don't want to practice then we would have a stronger team, I have 12 kids but each is on his own course, that goes back to the small school idea and the lack of having football since 81, I have to get them on the same course
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Post by dytmook on Sept 20, 2015 12:05:01 GMT -6
Junior Varsity, coaches Ugh anyways I like all the other jobs you guys mention but I also don't have to paint the field. so. I run Scout Team because it needs to be done well and I am top hat so it better be done well. As I JV coach I know what you mean. There are some slap nuts. I think the main reason I'm down there is for play calling experience and the fact the head coach knows I won't do anything to get him phone calls after the game like the previous guys. Our top 2 JV guys are varsity position guys too so it helps.
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Post by bignose on Sept 20, 2015 15:03:15 GMT -6
A few other pet hates: 15 minutes before walk thru: "Coach I need a,…………….name one: thigh pad, knee pad, belt, my helmet is missing a screw, not to mention the number of times a helmet has been left home, etc.
I swear some of my kids would leave their butts home if they weren't permanently attached.
Changing cleats on wet stinky shoes is right up there, especially if the cleats are so worn that I have remove them with vise grips.
Worst one of all, a couple of years ago, we had player show up with illegal metal tipped cleats, on his shiny new shoes which he had been told earlier were not allowed. "I figured no one would notice." Well, we did, about 20 minutes before kickoff. I am trying to find the jar of cleats we carry in the equipment box, my responsibility to check, only to find another assistant coach had taken them out to change another kids cleats and left them at home. I am sweating bullets, and then the dumbass tells us that he has a spare pair of cleats but they are in the locker room, which we don't have the key for, away game. I need to get up into the press box to film the game. The assistant who took the cleats jar out was able to get to the locker room and get idiot boy his cleats just before kickoff.
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Post by silkyice on Sept 20, 2015 19:28:25 GMT -6
A few other pet hates: 15 minutes before walk thru: "Coach I need a,…………….name one: thigh pad, knee pad, belt, my helmet is missing a screw, not to mention the number of times a helmet has been left home, etc. I swear some of my kids would leave their butts home if they weren't permanently attached. Changing cleats on wet stinky shoes is right up there, especially if the cleats are so worn that I have remove them with vise grips. Worst one of all, a couple of years ago, we had player show up with illegal metal tipped cleats, on his shiny new shoes which he had been told earlier were not allowed. "I figured no one would notice." Well, we did, about 20 minutes before kickoff. I am trying to find the jar of cleats we carry in the equipment box, my responsibility to check, only to find another assistant coach had taken them out to change another kids cleats and left them at home. I am sweating bullets, and then the dumbass tells us that he has a spare pair of cleats but they are in the locker room, which we don't have the key for, away game. I need to get up into the press box to film the game. The assistant who took the cleats jar out was able to get to the locker room and get idiot boy his cleats just before kickoff. Don't think metal tipped screw on cleats are illegal. Could be wrong. But, y'all still wear screw on cleats? Haven't had anyone wear those in 6-7 years.
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Post by souza12 on Sept 20, 2015 19:35:29 GMT -6
I am starting to enjoy coaching this game again.. but the one thing I really hate is traveling over the summer to camps. Especially when a program I am with wants to go REALLY far. Unless you're the absolute best team in your area, whats the point? I was with a Head Coach in the early summer (June) of the 2014 season that wanted to go to the North Bay (about an hour) and to Fresno (about 2.5 hours) for camps.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2015 20:12:20 GMT -6
I think it's bad coaching talking about yester year. Worry about the kids we have this year. That is a pretty blanket statement there. No one wants to here a million stories or endless speeches. But, appropriate and well timed speeches or stories from an experienced coach can be very valuable. Most likely the story is told because the coach IS worrying about the kids this year. Not talking about the story to a kid that is needed at times. I am talking about the coaches sitting around and comparing great player X from x amount of years ago and wondering why these kids don't act like that. Again, talking about yesteryear. And most kids don't care about the guy from 20 years ago. They don't care about what happened before they were born. Very few kids really care about football that way. We are not helping them with those stories. Inspire, absolutely, but we are not making them better with those stories.
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