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Post by CoachMikeJudy on Aug 25, 2015 10:34:54 GMT -6
Call sheet defensively is a 4x6 index card. Basically front/blitz/cov calls that need to be tied together. Maybe some reminders.
Call sheet offensively is a sheet of paper front & back. About 1/4 of each sheet is blank space to write notes.
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Post by natenator on Aug 25, 2015 10:38:53 GMT -6
I get that but how many of us does that apply to? If you're not a high quality high school program aren't you aspiring to be one? I didn't realize having a call sheet was the determining factor that separates high quality football programs and those that are not. I guess having a whistle is the difference between being a great coach and just a slappy as well.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2015 10:39:52 GMT -6
Have you seen a high quality high school football game? They look just like an BCS conference game except the average player is just a little smaller and slower. I get that but how many of us does that apply to? Thank God that now applies to me! I have always done it, even when I coached MS or Pop Warner. You never know where your career will take you, so why not prepare/plan at the highest level? I also think you're looking at it wrong w/your "I guess having a call sheet..." comment. It's not whether you have one, or what it even looks like, it's the fact you took time to PREPARE and put those thoughts down on paper to help commit them to memory. I don't know any OC/DC worth their salt that doesn't have some sort of little "cheat sheet" they utilize. I know there are exceptions to everything, but generally speaking most guys have something at least written down. Duece
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Post by natenator on Aug 25, 2015 10:57:58 GMT -6
I get that but how many of us does that apply to? Thank God that now applies to me! I have always done it, even when I coached MS or Pop Warner. You never know where your career will take you, so why not prepare/plan at the highest level? I also think you're looking at it wrong w/your "I guess having a call sheet..." comment. It's not whether you have one, or what it even looks like, it's the fact you took time to PREPARE and put those thoughts down on paper to help commit them to memory. I don't know any OC/DC worth their salt that doesn't have some sort of little "cheat sheet" they utilize. I know there are exceptions to everything, but generally speaking most guys have something at least written down. Duece I agree with this and do utilize a cheat sheet. I may have one with me but I rarely use it as my game plan through the week will have tried to already take into account a lot of what a team does. Now maybe this is a slight nuance of the Canadian game vs the American game? As a coach in Canada, I have to download a whole lot to my players in terms of calls and auto-adjustments based on formations, tendencies, etc simply because of all the annoying motion an offense can do.
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Post by fantom on Aug 25, 2015 11:06:05 GMT -6
If you're not a high quality high school program aren't you aspiring to be one? I didn't realize having a call sheet was the determining factor that separates high quality football programs and those that are not. It isn't. That wasn't what my response was about. You answered a post about high quality high school programs by saying that that doesn't apply to most of us. Well, why not?
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Post by silkyice on Aug 25, 2015 11:14:49 GMT -6
Have you seen a high quality high school football game? They look just like an BCS conference game except the average player is just a little smaller and slower. I get that but how many of us does that apply to? Just the ones that make a dang game plan. Sorry, couldn't resist.
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Post by Wingtman on Aug 25, 2015 11:17:38 GMT -6
I have a one sided excel sheet. It has game script on it, Wrist Band Calls, and two minute drill calls on it. I also have reminders on it to myself. About half way thru the game, I never use it, other then the wrist band calls, so I dont have to run anyone in with the play.
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Post by fantom on Aug 25, 2015 11:30:45 GMT -6
I'm a DC. My call sheet doesn't even deserve to be called one. It's the exact card that I put in the LBs' wrist bands for when we signal in the defense. I can get away with that because the calls that I make as a DC are pretty simple. We even have a procedure for if, for some reason, we don't get the call in- the LB and FS call "Base". I'm in the booth and one game as we were kicking off the headphones stopped working. Stressful but not tragic. We called "Base" until the phones got fixed. That wasn't long because my obviously great playcalling led us to a 3 and out and they were fixed before the next defensive series.
As enjoyable as it is making fun of offensive guys I do recognize that it's different for them. They have to match up plays with formations and motions plus match all of that up with defensive tendencies. If I was the OC in the booth when the phones went out that would have been a problem.
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Post by coachphillip on Aug 25, 2015 11:53:22 GMT -6
I like the practice of making my sheet, just like Deuce said. It's more so to make sure that I've looked through the film and know what I want. It's easier to remember all the stuff for that week when I've invested time into something.
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Post by coachphillip on Aug 25, 2015 12:21:14 GMT -6
It's not really a call sheet because we run a lot of Auto Formation Check on defense. But, it's the percentages of plays to expect vs certain formations and field/boundary. The main calls I make are pressures, so that's what I have sorted by situation. Little reminders. I barely look at it during the game itself. It's just nice to have the cheat sheet on hand for breaks in action.
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Post by 42falcon on Aug 25, 2015 19:04:07 GMT -6
Thank God that now applies to me! I have always done it, even when I coached MS or Pop Warner. You never know where your career will take you, so why not prepare/plan at the highest level? I also think you're looking at it wrong w/your "I guess having a call sheet..." comment. It's not whether you have one, or what it even looks like, it's the fact you took time to PREPARE and put those thoughts down on paper to help commit them to memory. I don't know any OC/DC worth their salt that doesn't have some sort of little "cheat sheet" they utilize. I know there are exceptions to everything, but generally speaking most guys have something at least written down. Duece I agree with this and do utilize a cheat sheet. I may have one with me but I rarely use it as my game plan through the week will have tried to already take into account a lot of what a team does. Now maybe this is a slight nuance of the Canadian game vs the American game? As a coach in Canada, I have to download a whole lot to my players in terms of calls and auto-adjustments based on formations, tendencies, etc simply because of all the annoying motion an offense can do. I coach in Canada to & this is a big part of what we & the other teams we play do. It's great you are aware of what you guys are trying to do situationally but your kids should know to. Breaking it down into as complex or as simple as you need is what matters. For us it's: 1-10 run / pass 2-short run/pass 2-long run/pass Red zone run/pass Short yardage / goal line run/pass We feel we can compartmentalized the game better this way & utilize personnel packages better. By no means is our PB like war & peace: 1-outside run 3-inside runs 3-screens 2-quick game 2- roll out 2-vertical game Formations are key but it's about personnel that change the formation. Plays stay the same, but the people we put in are why the situation is so key. We play a team who when they r on our side of the 40 are in 3 down ball & their kids know it... My guess is they are repping the crap out of those situations bc they make difference between in games
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Post by coachjtm on Aug 27, 2015 9:26:54 GMT -6
I'm the OC but the HC calls the plays. I made the sheet and color coded it just to keep it organized and easy. I built my offense and he didn't really get his hands on it until it was ready to install. That's just his style. He trusts us to work our magic but on game day he's sucked in.
I built it one page on Excel. Now that our second install is going in it will probably be front and back. We have all of our general calls, formations and personnel on one half and on the other half are our situational calls. Once we add our full check system in our third install along with our no huddle then that will take the back half of the page he and I stay on the same page and make things work for the kids.
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Post by tog on Aug 30, 2015 18:56:25 GMT -6
it kinda depends on how you think
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Post by dytmook on Aug 30, 2015 19:54:32 GMT -6
This week I wrote my offensive play sheet on the back of the defense stunt and coverage sheet I got from the DC. It was JV. I hardly use it, but it reminds me if I need help for a second. Plus we can only run about 5 plays consistently so it limits the decision making.
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Post by coachdesrochers on Aug 31, 2015 6:40:18 GMT -6
I guess you can call me one of those guys with colorful call sheets. But, we use a wristband system for our defense that is color coded so once side of our call sheet is the wristband, only bigger for our coaches with sight problems, I am not there yet. The other side of the call sheet is the money side if you ask me. It has what I would call in for different situations and plays with the corresponding wristband slot, which is colorful. I also have my contingencies on the sheet, such as if they are hurting us with power, what can I call. Is is totally necessary to have all of this color, no, but it works for me.
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