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Post by groundchuck on Aug 20, 2015 8:13:19 GMT -6
For whatever reason I like using a ball point pen on a manilla folder when it comes to my call sheet. I organize it by formation and certain calls. But generally we are who we are in the first quarter and 4th quarter.
I don't understand why it benefits us if I have a fancy colorful call sheet with certain plays/formations by quarter and series? This is high school. If we align in a certain formation and shove power at 4 a clip why run it differently later on? It seems like wasted energy?
Maybe I'm just a dinosaur.
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Post by joelee on Aug 20, 2015 8:20:52 GMT -6
I have been in a no huddle spread for about 12 years now. Our call sheet the last year has been 1 side of a white sheet of paper that we print off in a black and white excel document.
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Post by dubber on Aug 20, 2015 17:13:44 GMT -6
We try to limit our looks week by week.
Always going to roll with 2x2 and 3x1, but we have various 11, 12, 20, 21, 30, 32 formations, and we like to practice the ones we feel give us the best advantage (maybe 5-7) and roll with those.
Having the script makes sure we don't send a play the wrong way, etc.
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Post by eaglemountie on Aug 20, 2015 17:52:46 GMT -6
No need for a call sheet when you have 5 maybe 6 calls total.
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Post by coachg13 on Aug 20, 2015 18:31:16 GMT -6
We run 4 formations a week. Plus a 2x2 "Spread" and a "Goalline" set. I have color - just red, I fill in the cells with the formation names in them. Just helps me separate it a little bit. Other than that I'm like groundchuck - just the plays for me. All that other field position/hash/down & distance/3rd and 3.684 yds stuff is up there somewhere in my head. We do put a number beside each play. We have about 60 plays a week - that includes the formation in the play name. So we just run "Play 3" in and QB reads the whole call off his band. I type it because I'm OCD about neatness and my handwriting sucks plus I was a finance major so I like excel and have it linked from the sheet to the bands. The biggest thing though is our OL coach likes a copy on Fridays and if I wrote it he couldn't read it.
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Post by wingtol on Aug 20, 2015 20:16:54 GMT -6
We have been running the same system using the same termonilogy for about 11 years now. Not the OC but HC will run anything I tell him to from the box if we have a play put in that week or some other game plan type stuff I write it down with a star next to it on my defensive call sheet that I write out with a sharpie on the back of a scout play card in the press box before the game. Yeah we don't get to fancy. We don't have 1 and 10 2 and short 2nd and long etc calls we just have our plays and run whatever has been working.
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Post by shocktroop34 on Aug 20, 2015 21:36:52 GMT -6
I was one of those idiots with a call sheet that looked like a color coded financial report from JP Morgan.
First ten plays scripted (which usually changed when we were picking grass out of our face masks on the third play) 1st and ten 3rd and short goal line (which essentially were the same calls as 3rd and short) quick passes Misdirection Deep threats Even scripted plays for various players
We were a quick tempo/wristband team and I didn't want to think too much when getting the play in.
I even had the conversion chart on whether to go for one or go for two. As I reflect, it appears that like to think as little as possible.
As my college coach used to tell me, I'm no Phi Beta Kappa (let me save you a Google search-It's the fraternity for smart kids).
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Post by rsmith627 on Aug 21, 2015 6:07:46 GMT -6
Mine is just a table with the following categories: Inside run, outside run, quick pass, 5-step, play action, gimmicks
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Post by John Knight on Aug 21, 2015 6:15:53 GMT -6
No wonder Mike gave up play calling!!
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Post by coachorm on Aug 21, 2015 8:14:47 GMT -6
My call sheet is one piece of cardstock paper. On one side is base personnel. Each formation has the plays we can and want to run out of it. Also each formation has a colored background so I can just look mainly at the color and know which formation I am calling out of. Front side is base offensive formations. Backside is what we call our EVIL personnel. Basically its our doubletight Maryland I and Power I we are gonna run it down your throat set. Pretty simple and never changes unless I get a wild hair and decide to add something one week.
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Post by shocktroop34 on Aug 21, 2015 12:03:55 GMT -6
No wonder Mike gave up play calling!! Who's that guy standing with John Knight?
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Post by John Knight on Aug 21, 2015 14:24:19 GMT -6
Old friend of mine from college RH column #88
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Post by shocktroop34 on Aug 21, 2015 21:09:03 GMT -6
John Knight that's bad a$$ brother. We now know why Coach McCarthy is where he is. You're a humble guy.
Seriously tho, this is what I love about this site. So many guys have the coolest back stories.
I also see Mr. Knight was a svelte 261 lb. Gotta love the days of that high metabolism.
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Post by John Knight on Aug 21, 2015 23:29:10 GMT -6
Typo, should say 281 and never svelte!
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Post by jgordon1 on Aug 22, 2015 3:37:48 GMT -6
I take 3 pieces of paper and fold it in 1/2 like a book. I have my 1st down type calls on the first page. on the last page I have my gl/sy defense and passes calls. in the middle on one page I have my punt block and return look and a couple of adjustments from the back of my head that I have been thinking about but haven't really told anyone except maybe a LB just in case. the rest of the papers are blank and I write notes to myself or add to or narrow down the plan when the offense is on the field. if things are going well its sits in my pocket like an old blanky..if not I like to have it just in case I am missing something. Unfortunately, paper doesn't help when you are getting blown off the ball
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Post by CS on Aug 22, 2015 6:04:49 GMT -6
Never used one as a DC. I am now in my first season as an OC and I have one with just the formations and the plays we can run out of them so I don't get mixed up.
I think the reason for that is when I was DC it was a defense that I put together and knew backwards and forwards. This is someone else's offense and I'm still getting the hang of it.
However, that being said, I don't see the need in all that 1st down calls, 2nd and short and what have you. I know which plays are working, and my go to plays by heart.
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Post by natenator on Aug 22, 2015 16:56:15 GMT -6
At the HS level I just don't see the need.
College/pro level spend most of their practice time on situation specific elements to attack/defend so I can see it there. Plus they have playbooks that rival war and peace lol
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Post by rut on Aug 23, 2015 14:16:58 GMT -6
One page made in excel every call by play type. Formations in all caps if I can run the same wristband number out of multiple formations. I have 80 calls but formation changes can give me more looks. I probably use 10 of the calls each game but move people around to attack the defense.
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Post by 42falcon on Aug 23, 2015 18:49:24 GMT -6
At the HS level I just don't see the need. College/pro level spend most of their practice time on situation specific elements to attack/defend so I can see it there. Plus they have playbooks that rival war and peace lol I think this is one of HS biggest errors. Practicing situations is so critical & can give a team the edge. The great teams we see have things they do very well situationally. The average teams we see don't have much variation between what they are doing on 1-10 VS red zone run or pass.
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Post by silkyice on Aug 23, 2015 19:03:45 GMT -6
At the HS level I just don't see the need. College/pro level spend most of their practice time on situation specific elements to attack/defend so I can see it there. Plus they have playbooks that rival war and peace lol I think this is one of HS biggest errors. Practicing situations is so critical & can give a team the edge. The great teams we see have things they do very well situationally. The average teams we see don't have much variation between what they are doing on 1-10 VS red zone run or pass. Agreed! Toolbox!
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Post by buckeye7525 on Aug 23, 2015 20:03:00 GMT -6
Mine is probably more complicated than what it really needs to be. Side one is all of the formations we can run our particular plays out of. Side two is the openers, 3rd downs, GL/Backedup, 2minute, Must Runs, 1st Down passes. Side two has about a third of it blank for me to just write in notes as needed and also has a section for the wristband.
Personally, the biggest advantage (in my opinion) of putting together the call sheet is that it imprints your offense in your head to the point of not needing to ever look at it. Kind of like the kid making a cheat sheet for a test and then not ever having to reference it.
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Post by natenator on Aug 23, 2015 20:20:14 GMT -6
At the HS level I just don't see the need. College/pro level spend most of their practice time on situation specific elements to attack/defend so I can see it there. Plus they have playbooks that rival war and peace lol I think this is one of HS biggest errors. Practicing situations is so critical & can give a team the edge. The great teams we see have things they do very well situationally. The average teams we see don't have much variation between what they are doing on 1-10 VS red zone run or pass. When some (maybe a lot?) coaches are spending more of the time just trying to get their dipsh!t Johnny's to align correctly then it might be overkill to think situational football would provide them an edge. That said I coach D and see absolutely no need for a call sheet at the HS levels. Maybe the visor guys are different
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Post by realdawg on Aug 24, 2015 11:42:58 GMT -6
Hand written on a piece of card stock. One side there is the opponents tendencies by down and distance with there too threw plays in that situation. On the other side is the calls we want to make in each down and distance. Usually stick to it about 2 series tops and then start calling it based off of the feel of the game.
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Post by John Knight on Aug 24, 2015 11:59:52 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2015 20:11:45 GMT -6
Mine is pretty fancy for HS, BUT mine is a worksheet, not just a call sheet. I fill it out on Sunday and it has my answers, my checks, what they've run in certain situations etc. The reason I have all that is b/c by typing/writing it all up it helps me memorize it. For some reason I have to draw/type/write things up to memorize them. Once I do, they are locked in there, but if I don't, I'm clueless. There's always that little guy sitting on my shoulder that's telling me if I don't do this, I'll forget something. So far I haven't, so I guess it's been good. At face value though, many would say it's overkill, BUT it's my security blanket.
Offensively, being flexbone, I pretty much had it memorized what I wanted to do, but always carried a list of our formations and plays just in case.
Duece
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Post by silkyice on Aug 25, 2015 9:59:43 GMT -6
Personally, the biggest advantage (in my opinion) of putting together the call sheet is that it imprints your offense in your head to the point of not needing to ever look at it. Kind of like the kid making a cheat sheet for a test and then not ever having to reference it. Bam!!!
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Post by silkyice on Aug 25, 2015 10:01:51 GMT -6
I think this is one of HS biggest errors. Practicing situations is so critical & can give a team the edge. The great teams we see have things they do very well situationally. The average teams we see don't have much variation between what they are doing on 1-10 VS red zone run or pass. When some (maybe a lot?) coaches are spending more of the time just trying to get their dipsh!t Johnny's to align correctly then it might be overkill to think situational football would provide them an edge. That said I coach D and see absolutely no need for a call sheet at the HS levels. Maybe the visor guys are different Seriously?
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Post by silkyice on Aug 25, 2015 10:05:00 GMT -6
When some (maybe a lot?) coaches are spending more of the time just trying to get their dipsh!t Johnny's to align correctly then it might be overkill to think situational football would provide them an edge. That said I coach D and see absolutely no need for a call sheet at the HS levels. Maybe the visor guys are different Seriously? Have you seen a high quality high school football game? They look just like an BCS conference game except the average player is just a little smaller and slower.
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Post by natenator on Aug 25, 2015 10:08:30 GMT -6
Seriously? Have you seen a high quality high school football game? They look just like an BCS conference game except the average player is just a little smaller and slower. I get that but how many of us does that apply to?
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Post by fantom on Aug 25, 2015 10:18:31 GMT -6
Have you seen a high quality high school football game? They look just like an BCS conference game except the average player is just a little smaller and slower. I get that but how many of us does that apply to? If you're not a high quality high school program aren't you aspiring to be one?
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