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Post by warriorstrength on Feb 17, 2007 15:08:26 GMT -6
This is probably one of the worst coaching jobs I have seen in a while. What exactly are they teaching the kids? Shocking!
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Post by sls on Feb 17, 2007 15:24:46 GMT -6
That was pretty crazy, where was that team from? Anyone know?
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Post by tog on Feb 17, 2007 15:26:05 GMT -6
that's pretty bad
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Post by tog on Feb 17, 2007 15:30:49 GMT -6
i like the guy at the end
he is so "tough" he needs to wear gloves to whack players on the head
the sad part of this is
there are a lot of people in this world that will not see anything wrong with this
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Post by warriorstrength on Feb 17, 2007 15:39:48 GMT -6
Miami Northwestern
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Post by warriorstrength on Feb 17, 2007 15:42:30 GMT -6
I understand that there are different ways to motivate especially in certain demographics but heck fire. I don't see any think positive about sticking a player or using that kind of degregating language directed at a KID. No wonder coaches get a bum rap from time to time.
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Post by wccoach on Feb 17, 2007 15:56:21 GMT -6
How does this Happen? How can that be tolerated by the school or parents? That coaching staff needs to be taken off the field in cuffs by the police. I cannot believe I just saw that! I hope this is picked up by some media outlet and that situation is stopped. Absolutely the worst thing I have ever seen.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2007 16:09:45 GMT -6
I own Year of the Bull, and while those are the highlights  that pretty much is the gist of the documentary. And, I believe it's four or five years old; Taurean Charles has probably completed his eligibility, assuming he made it through all four years. Last I heard, he was at Florida A and M maybe? I'm pretty sure he committed to Florida but transferred. |
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Post by wccoach on Feb 17, 2007 16:32:17 GMT -6
Well I did not know that this has been out for some time. Watching that just makes me appreciate my school and program so much more. I still cannot understand how that behavior is tolerated. I don't care how many games they have won, around here if a couching staff acted like that they would be arrested and terminated. I just cannot believe how that is seen as an acceptable situation. I am I way off base with my reaction?
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Post by wingtol on Feb 17, 2007 16:37:51 GMT -6
Saddly it is tolerated because in many situations like that there aren't strong parent groups to complain or that is what those kids are use to. That is their idea of manhood saddly. I teach in the inner-city, not coach there, but teach there. It's a different world to people who have not experienced it. Not sure what the demographics of that school are but it seems like the player accept the way the coaches acted and saddly again acted like it themselves. People who don't know will never understand.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2007 16:38:26 GMT -6
Not at all, coach, I just pointing out that it didn't happen recently. In fact, on another message board a couple years back, I posted something about it and was basically told I just needed to understand how inner-city schools are different  I'm with you on this one; I thought it was deplorable. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2007 16:39:46 GMT -6
You posted as I posted, wingtol. Thanks for the perspective.
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Post by wccoach on Feb 17, 2007 16:58:29 GMT -6
I coach at an inner city school!! I am not some naive new coach with pie in the sky ideas. I played in the 70's on a team that won numerous state championships and had my face mask torqued a few times by my coaches, but what is on that video is sickening. The majority of our players have to deal with dysfunctional families and some sort of personal tragedy everyday. The football program should be the place these kids get to go that shows them respect and treats them with dignity, not another social interaction that mirrors the difficulties at home.
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Post by wingtol on Feb 17, 2007 17:35:17 GMT -6
I agree with you wc those caoches were tottaly out of hand. Really an embarsment too all coaches. I wasn't saying you were wrong at all, just expressing my experiences and totally agree that is the last thing those kids need is to be treated like that on the football field. Sends the complete wrong message to them.
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Post by djwesp on Feb 17, 2007 18:45:39 GMT -6
I don't know what was more shocking...
The coaches or... the player...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2007 18:49:03 GMT -6
You would have to say the coaches, wouldn't you djwesp? I mean the DL coach basically was the one who provoked the fight on the practice field.
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Post by Yash on Feb 17, 2007 18:49:56 GMT -6
From reading the comments on Youtube I guess that star player got kicked out of florida for throwing a keg at a party. very poor example of coaching. I can't believe the admin. allowed this to be released.
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Post by brophy on Feb 17, 2007 19:08:48 GMT -6
the sad part of this is there are a lot of people in this world that will not see anything wrong with this tell me about it. That's what EVERYONE (that doesn't coach) thinks what a coach really does.... I couldn't stand to watch all of it. It was just ridiculous It really looked an awful lot like a bunch of hyper-sensitive-fragile-egoed-emotionally-wrecked-WOMEN.......just dysfunction on every level of human personality and maturity. |
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Post by fort on Feb 17, 2007 19:25:48 GMT -6
Wow... That's all I can say. Absolute scum coaches and program (at least at that time). Are those guys still at that school (or in the game at all)? That was actually difficult for me to watch.
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Post by Coach Huey on Feb 17, 2007 19:48:18 GMT -6
is this for real?
how the heck can these men think that is the best way to coach (teach, motivate, inspire) these players?
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Post by coachcb on Feb 17, 2007 19:54:25 GMT -6
If you think that 10 minute clip is bad, you should see the whole movie!!! It's flippin ridiculous the language that's used, the bullsh-t that's tolerated and the attitude's that are allowed to permeate. The bottom line (accordingf to the school's AD) was that the team wins; that's all that counts.
Tauraean Charles had to retake the SAT repeatedly, just to get the miniumum score needed to go to college.... And this was even with the tutor provided by the school!!! Show's you where the school and coache's priorities are...
Taurean Charles was thrown off of the Florida's team; he beat the crap out of some kid while he was one probation. He was on probation in the first place because of an assault incident involving a himself and female student alone in a dorm room.
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Post by ex-centralcoach on Feb 17, 2007 20:15:46 GMT -6
Saying that Tauraean Charles beat the crap out of someone is putting it mildly. At a frat party he threw a kid (who was calling him racial slurs) off a balcony. He then picked up the keg and threw it on the kid.
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Post by brophy on Feb 17, 2007 20:30:51 GMT -6
Saying that Tauraean Charles beat the crap out of someone is putting it mildly. At a frat party he threw a kid (who was calling him racial slurs) off a balcony. He then picked up the keg and threw it on the kid. it wasn't the SAME racial slur littering all the locker dialogue in this clip was it? |
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Post by coachcb on Feb 17, 2007 20:37:27 GMT -6
Rent the movie sometime fellas; it'll blow your mind. I watched it about 2 weeks after I got in trouble for my use the of them word's d-mn, h-ll, and sh-t during the season.... LOL.
That's what you get when you allow these kids to be treated like gods in their school. If you don't hold them accountable for their crap now, chances are the law will later.
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Post by hchscoachtom on Feb 17, 2007 20:50:48 GMT -6
UNBELIEVABLE! SIMPLY UNBELIEVABLE!!!
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Post by ajreaper on Feb 17, 2007 21:08:45 GMT -6
Why do we even refer to those "people" as coaches? It's a term that none of them deserve to have applied to what they do and we do ourselves a disservice to place them within the same profession we work within. I don't care if it's inner city or if they win that was the most disgusting display of behavior on a footbal field I've ever seen.
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Post by dubber on Feb 17, 2007 21:08:49 GMT -6
The actions of the coaches were terrible-unexcusable and untolerable.
This is also extremely bad coaching from a teaching standpoint too. They basically let their stud do whatever he wanted. He was a great athlete who got away with terrible technique. All I know, is if my defensive end tried to take on a kickout block with his back as he is making a spin move away from it, I would have a fit.
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Post by dubber on Feb 17, 2007 21:10:09 GMT -6
Sure this is against scout team, but you're going to get your butt kicked if you pull that in a game.
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Post by coachshs on Feb 17, 2007 21:11:44 GMT -6
This is probably one of the worst coaching jobs I have seen in a while. What exactly are they teaching the kids? Shocking! I sure hope that these guys are unemployed. That was insane...... |
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Post by pegleg on Feb 17, 2007 23:17:14 GMT -6
the folks in texas are all riled up about this because northwestern is coming to dallas to play southlake carroll this year. a lot of comparisions to the dallas carter teams of the 1980s as portrayed in friday nite lights. which is a fairly accurate portrayal btw. the carter team from 1988 had to forfiet their title because of a myriad of illegal issues.
all that being said, i have coached in the inner city and have a buddy (our dc) who played on those carter teams in the late 80s. i understand the idea of tough love for these kids. you have to treat them differently than a suburb kid. you talk to them differently because thats all they understand sometimes. the good ones learn how to balance the tough love and providing a safe haven.
i think the things in that video are totally unacceptable and out of control, but i have seen it live and in color. not on our staff, but it happens more than anyone would like to admit.
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that pretty much is the gist of the documentary. And, I believe it's four or five years old; Taurean Charles has probably completed his eligibility, assuming he made it through all four years. Last I heard, he was at Florida A and M maybe? I'm pretty sure he committed to Florida but transferred.
I'm with you on this one; I thought it was deplorable.
