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Post by jg78 on Jun 15, 2015 20:38:27 GMT -6
Let's say you just left one school for another and your new school is playing your old school in the first game of the season. Your competing against a staff (the one you just left) that knows your offense or defense from A to Z. How would you approach that game?
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Post by jsk002 on Jun 15, 2015 21:00:08 GMT -6
Run your stuff to the best of your kids abilities. Fundamentals and playing fast contribute more to winning than scheme. Change some of our terms if you think it makes a difference. But that would be the extent that i would go.
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Post by lochness on Jun 15, 2015 21:06:45 GMT -6
Agree. Technique and execution are what matters. You may want to change things like audible systems or blocking calls, though.
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Post by canesfan on Jun 15, 2015 21:48:02 GMT -6
Do what you do. Ran into this during this past season. Coach against the team and coaches I was with the last three years. The OC (one of my best friends) worried too much about me stealing his signals and relaying it to our team. One, I wouldn't do that and two if I tried to do that I would just confuse our team. While he worried about that, we just played and coached and won comfortably.
If you're worried about signals, etc. don't. You'll be fine. If you must make new signals to use this year or have two signalers that week. Or just play.
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Post by hwkfn1 on Jun 15, 2015 22:04:10 GMT -6
We had that several years ago. Guy left our program for our rivals. We played them first game of the season. We just told our kids that we were going to do what we do and not worry about what he knew. We won the game.
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Post by coachbdud on Jun 15, 2015 23:25:15 GMT -6
hopefully you left to a school with better players  |
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Post by agame on Jun 16, 2015 0:51:39 GMT -6
Do what you do.. To the best of your ability...
Only thing we changed on the new team was terminology... Still the same offence
I'm an air raid guy.. U know what your getting every time...
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Post by spreadattack on Jun 16, 2015 10:33:04 GMT -6
1) Do what you do
2) Think about -- but don't obsess -- over signals. If you have some pretty simple and obvious signals those might be due for a change anyway, but don't obsess about it and change everything.
3) Self scout -- You should be doing this anyway but you as a playcaller or gameplanner may have some tendencies you don't think about or that other teams haven't picked up on, and the only real difference between a normal opponent and an opponent that knows you very well is they may have a better beat on those tendencies. This is different than throwing everything out, but putting in a few tendency breakers can actually be a way to *exploit* the fact that the other team's coaches know you well and think they know what's coming.
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Post by veerman on Jun 16, 2015 10:59:07 GMT -6
As a trade off you know you should have an idea how those guys think as well....I agree with others, do what you do.
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Post by coachwoodall on Jun 17, 2015 19:16:15 GMT -6
As a trade off you know you should have an idea how those guys think as well....I agree with others, do what you do. Yeah I love dycking with offensive staff when we're off script jousting. Plus I know most of their stuff. We're a bit in the same boat. We left a couple of years ago to come here and the new HC to take over was a former staff member that had left to get a HC job then returned in our absence. On top of that we've had 3 defensive coaches leave us and return to that school. About 50% of both staffs have working relationship that go back over 10 years. |
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Post by fballcoachg on Jun 19, 2015 6:12:25 GMT -6
I ran into this a few years ago, tried calling the game off of a wristband instead of signals. That lasted about 1.5 quarters. The other guy was more worried about his own team and my signals wouldn't have told him anything scouting didn't.
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Post by spartan on Jun 19, 2015 16:11:04 GMT -6
This happened to us last year. Being split veer we don't change much but we did change all our signals code words and defensive calls. Then we assigned one coach to steal all his signals and we knew what was coming. Silly Rabbit never changed anything. Anyways we clipped'em 20-19. You ain't cheatin you ain't tryin The New England Patriots motto.
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Post by fantom on Jun 19, 2015 16:19:20 GMT -6
This happened to us last year. Being split veer we don't change much but we did change all our signals code words and defensive calls. Then we assigned one coach to steal all his signals and we knew what was coming. Silly Rabbit never changed anything. Anyways we clipped'em 20-19. You ain't cheatin you ain't tryin The New England Patriots motto. That's not cheating. It's up to them to protect their calls. |
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Post by WingTheT on Jun 19, 2015 21:01:36 GMT -6
Don't be worried about trying to change your calls where you confuse yourself, the staff, players, etc. You'll only wind up spending time on that rather than using it for team period. Just stick with your guns.
Worked with a guy last year who knew a team we were playing in the playoff and was worried about trying to pick up signals. We lost not because of the calls but because they so much better than us. I'm pretty sure the guy spent time scouting signals rather than the actual team
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Post by ahall005 on Jun 20, 2015 13:11:00 GMT -6
all of the talk about signals makes me wonder if anyone else still uses players to run in plays?
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Post by coachwoodall on Jun 20, 2015 18:37:31 GMT -6
When I called plays on offense, I'd signal the formation to the huddle and then run in the play. I didn't care if the knew it was Pro I, I'd rather let them try to wonder why I'd put in that player. I didn't care about the tempo unless I was forcing the issue, then it was that they knew the formation and I was simply making a call of 'play 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, etc....'
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