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Post by brophy on Jul 3, 2007 7:31:15 GMT -6
I am not one to put much into "sports writing", as the bulk of it consists of tired football cliches and catch-phrases....but I did, out of a moment of boredom & weakness purchase the latest issue of ProFootball on the newstands.
Just happens to have a nice cheerleader spread.......
Now, in the magazine there are two really good articles
1) The "Psychology" of Wide Outs .....oh boy....that is another topic altogether
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2) The NEED for two competent running backs and their effect on running an offense.
- Does the trend hold any weight?
- Could a paradigm shift in offensive personality trickle down to the HS level?
- Does it provide a legitimate advantage at the HS level (limited games to begin with)?
- How much of a philosophy change is needed to try to implement a one-two punch / two-back attack in your offense?
- Is the strategic advantage of having two backs worth altering how you use personnel on offense?
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Post by gatorball on Jul 3, 2007 7:42:06 GMT -6
We ran split backs last year at Franklin High and used two equal backs effectively, but I am sure that you could rotate series and be successful or use formations that you could get them both on the field together. I am in favor of having my best players out there. But there are some things to look at
who runs inside better
who is a better blocker
who is a better receiver
who can get to the outside faster
who is harder to tackle
etc
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Post by coache67 on Jul 3, 2007 7:42:28 GMT -6
Interesting article and something you really see a lot of in the pros - with one caveat - the starter is still "the guy".
I think that is the philosophy that we would employ should we be faced with this again. Two years ago we had a returning 1000yd rusher, but we had a player come out who should have played the year before - he ended up playing FB for us but as the year went on, we moved to a one back set and split time between the two. It worked out well for us (for a variety of reasons), but the obvious were two different styles of runners, two different sets of legs that didn't tire as quickly and the ability to scheme in a different manner (put the starter at WR or motion him out to mismatch).
I personally liked doing this and we continued it this year and will do so next as well.
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Post by brophy on Jul 3, 2007 7:53:40 GMT -6
and personally...............the LenDale White / Reggie Bush.........Deuce McCallister/ Reggie Bush ........Marshall Faulk / Steven Jackson ...........monsters give you very little options from a defensive perspective........
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Post by wingtol on Jul 4, 2007 9:16:16 GMT -6
Come to the darkside and run the wing-t if you have that many good backs. We missed having three 1000yd rusher this year by a total of 22 yds I think.......come join the cult get your wing-t membership cards now
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Post by briangilbert on Jul 4, 2007 13:12:51 GMT -6
Well the 2 back set worked really well for the LA Raiders in Super Tecmo Bowl...
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Post by coachd5085 on Jul 4, 2007 13:31:57 GMT -6
I agree with Wingtol If you have that type of talent, the Wing is a great offense.
I don't think the pros really get much out of it, other than when then can formationally create a mismatch with personnel groupings.
At the H.S. level though, If you have two STUDS... and only one ball... well, one of those studs should probably find his way to the D side of the ball, where he can be an impact player potentially every play.
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Post by wingman on Jul 4, 2007 14:58:24 GMT -6
We ran it and other offenses that also use multiback offenses ( fly and option ) .
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Post by tog on Jul 4, 2007 16:43:32 GMT -6
mostly what i think the pros use two backs like this for is to spell each other and to have a capable backup in case of injury
if they are both on the field at the same time then that will adjust some things
in hs if you have two studs, they had better both be playing
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Post by wingt74 on Jul 5, 2007 8:55:45 GMT -6
mostly what i think the pros use two backs like this for is to spell each other and to have a capable backup in case of injury if they are both on the field at the same time then that will adjust some things in hs if you have two studs, they had better both be playing Agree with the above RBs take a pounding. A beat up tired stud, in the pros at least, isn't much better than a fresh backup. HS could be a different story. You could have one RB who is just head and shoulders better than anyone else on the team. So a one-two punch isn't feasible. But, I always remember what goofy John Madden said, "If you got two, then you ain't got one". Meaning, if you use two, that means that your "best" really isn't that good. I think that holds true for every position...except for RB. |
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Post by CVBears on Jul 6, 2007 14:08:08 GMT -6
our passing game takes eight receivers to run well (we have three to four in at a time)
our running game works on similar principles. If we only had one guy at RB, we'd never be able to get the job done
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Post by tye2021 on Jul 6, 2007 16:12:31 GMT -6
Where the two back system works in HS is REST. Most if not all HS has players going both ways. Rotating 2 backs allows the one or both of them to get rest if they do happen to play both sies of the ball. Also if you a run dominant team have 2 capable backs to throw at a defense with fresh legs will give you an advantage over a tiring defense. Also If you have a back that for some reason is just cold one night you have the second guy that can pick up the slack.
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