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Post by nltdiego on Apr 10, 2015 11:00:30 GMT -6
Coaches,
Im just brainstorming before I meet with my coaches this week. I would love to know from all of you on what makes a great practice. Basically if you were to just watch as a spectator what makes a great practice?
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Post by coacho8 on Apr 10, 2015 11:05:24 GMT -6
Just a few things that come to mind right away: high intensity & effort; as little standing around as possible, and quick transitions from drill to drill (period to period).
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Post by coachphillip on Apr 10, 2015 11:09:28 GMT -6
For Oregon: Hard, Fast, Finish.
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Post by hammer66 on Apr 10, 2015 11:34:06 GMT -6
Just a few things that come to mind right away: high intensity & effort; as little standing around as possible, and quick transitions from drill to drill (period to period).
Agree with the above...but also looking for knowledge of assignment.
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Post by s73 on Apr 10, 2015 11:48:10 GMT -6
Agree with the above plus drill work that has noticeable correlation to Friday nights.
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Post by bigmoot on Apr 10, 2015 12:13:28 GMT -6
tempo
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Post by chipprjonz10 on Apr 10, 2015 12:21:27 GMT -6
maximum participation
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Post by IronmanFootball on Apr 10, 2015 12:29:24 GMT -6
In Florida- no lightning or rain Focus, intensity, high tempo, lots of quality reps, and guys flying around having fun coaching and playing the game
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Post by fantom on Apr 10, 2015 12:32:13 GMT -6
A half hour of static stretching, a half hour of individual tackling drill with one guy going at a time, an hour scrimmage stopping to make detailed corrections every time a kid makes a mistake, finished up with a half hour of gassers.
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Post by bigmoot on Apr 10, 2015 12:45:16 GMT -6
fantom...you forgot the one hour "standing around walk through" with head coach doing all of the talking and instructing while 6-7 assistants stand around twirling whistles and checking cell phones.
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Post by fantom on Apr 10, 2015 12:48:21 GMT -6
fantom...you forgot the one hour "standing around walk through" with head coach doing all of the talking and instructing while 6-7 assistants stand around twirling whistles and checking cell phones. That would make it completely perfect.
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Post by mariner42 on Apr 10, 2015 13:00:50 GMT -6
A half hour of static stretching, a half hour of individual tackling drill with one guy going at a time, an hour scrimmage stopping to make detailed corrections every time a kid makes a mistake, finished up with a half hour of gassers.
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Post by coachbdud on Apr 10, 2015 13:38:49 GMT -6
mostly individuals, some small group work... all the while as little standing as possible, everyone getting a ton of reps the coach should appear as he did a few bumps of coke with charlie sheen just before practice and preferably he never stops shaking at any moment in practice
any team time is short and sweet... high tempo, plays should reflect the skills worked in indy and group up to that point in the practice. coaching needs to be done on the fly so you can get more reps done
in educational terms the lesson plan, practice, hw, and real teaching goes on with the whiteboard and indy time... team is not where you get better, it is essentially a "pop quiz" to see how well you can carry over the skills learned in Indy/group into a game like situation
an actual game would be the equivalent of a test/final exam
you really do not get better in team or games, you get better at practice, and the team time or game is the application of what you have/haven't learned
you don't learn algebra 2 by taking a test on algebra 2, it merely "tests" how well you have been learning from lessons/class/hw
if only our lower levels could understand this haha
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Post by coachmonkey on Apr 10, 2015 13:46:13 GMT -6
A half hour of static stretching, a half hour of individual tackling drill with one guy going at a time, an hour scrimmage stopping to make detailed corrections every time a kid makes a mistake, finished up with a half hour of gassers. In Education I call this a "nonexample." Yes, I did catch the sarcasm.
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Post by silkyice on Apr 10, 2015 14:52:18 GMT -6
fantom...you forgot the one hour "standing around walk through" with head coach doing all of the talking and instructing while 6-7 assistants stand around twirling whistles and checking cell phones. That would make it completely perfect. I also thought you should finish practice with the head coach talking for over 30 minutes about the good ole days and how puking while running the gassers will make you a better husband and dad some day.
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Post by eaglemountie on Apr 10, 2015 15:01:48 GMT -6
Fast paced. Organized. Clear goals and expectations. High participation/execution/effort/enthusiasm by coaches, players, managers, etc. Under 2 hours total.
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Post by mariner42 on Apr 10, 2015 16:23:50 GMT -6
I'll actually contribute something besides entertaining myself.
Some of my favorite practices have been ones where there isn't a crazy, Charlie Sheen on coked-out tiger blood vibe, but rather a calm atmosphere with lots of people just doing their jobs. Crisp execution, clear communication, great effort and attitude being shown all the time (not having to wait for someone to jump in on the scout team, for example).
I guess you could label it almost a cooperative feeling, instead of a directive. The staff and players are so familiar with the routine that they are all just flowing through it, not being driven through it.
I realize this is very hippie-dippie sounding, and that somewhat appropriate given where I'm from, but I enjoy these type a great deal.
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Post by 33coach on Apr 10, 2015 17:39:53 GMT -6
Coaches, Im just brainstorming before I meet with my coaches this week. I would love to know from all of you on what makes a great practice. Basically if you were to just watch as a spectator what makes a great practice? I'm probably the opposite of all these "fast" guys. A good practice is organized, methodical, not rushed. Perfecting technique and all the coaches are on the same page, not hurrying through it just because "we gotta be fast". I like things broken into 15 minute increments...slow and steady, dont want to miss anything. Remember if a kid drills it wrong, it's because you allowed him to.
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Post by coachklee on Apr 10, 2015 17:49:13 GMT -6
mostly individuals, some small group work... all the while as little standing as possible, everyone getting a ton of reps the coach should appear as he did a few bumps of coke with charlie sheen just before practice and preferably he never stops shaking at any moment in practice any team time is short and sweet... high tempo, plays should reflect the skills worked in indy and group up to that point in the practice. coaching needs to be done on the fly so you can get more reps done in educational terms the lesson plan, practice, hw, and real teaching goes on with the whiteboard and indy time... team is not where you get better, it is essentially a "pop quiz" to see how well you can carry over the skills learned in Indy/group into a game like situation an actual game would be the equivalent of a test/final exam you really do not get better in team or games, you get better at practice, and the team time or game is the application of what you have/haven't learned you don't learn algebra 2 by taking a test on algebra 2, it merely "tests" how well you have been learning from lessons/class/hw if only our lower levels could understand this haha Great translation between the classroom & the football field.
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Post by fantom on Apr 10, 2015 19:12:42 GMT -6
Coaches, Im just brainstorming before I meet with my coaches this week. I would love to know from all of you on what makes a great practice. Basically if you were to just watch as a spectator what makes a great practice? Once it gets to group and team periods the coaches would be pretty much watching like spectators.
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Post by canesfan on Apr 10, 2015 21:18:00 GMT -6
Effort and hustle from whistle to whistle. Coaches coaching their tails off and players competing. Efficiency: scripted plays and looks Fast tempo. Minimum wasted time or reps.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2015 9:37:32 GMT -6
full speed, I didn't say full contact. high paced. We huddle and communication. My kids must communicate. My kids have a lot of freedom once they are in the huddle, they must make the adjustments necessary. and yes that is a lot of work. But I have 8 mo. to get that done.
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Post by joe83843 on Apr 11, 2015 16:43:40 GMT -6
Are the kids fixing what you told them they did wrong the next rep they have in that same drill, and then applying it again during team? If everyone is doing that consistently they're reinforcing the muscle memory you want them to have and it's a good practice. If not they're developing bad habits and it's a bad practice.
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Post by 33coach on Apr 13, 2015 7:45:26 GMT -6
Agree with the above plus drill work that has noticeable correlation to Friday nights. Why would anyone do anything that doesn't have a noticeable correlation to friday nights? Because some coaches are stuck in the past. How many jumping jacks have you seen on Friday night?
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Post by scottbailey on Apr 13, 2015 8:35:18 GMT -6
First, I like it when everyone gets there early so we can get off to a good start.
Next, I like it when drill work goes fast with the need for minimal coaching and minimal reps because our players understand what we want from each drill and give it willingly.
For group/team time I like to see our players communicating pre snap and coaching each other post snap before we have a chance to say anything...even if the extra communication/peer coaching slows the pace of practice down through these sessions.
At breaks I like to see our coaches talking about what went well and what needs to improve, even if it means going back and re-teaching something because we just are not comfortable with it. I like to see our players interacting in a way that lets me know they enjoy the guys they are with, they enjoy being at football practice and are learning to love the work it takes to be successful.
I always want the end of practice to be positive. Doesn't always happen, because the things I listed above don't always happen...but the end of a good practice seems to create an energy where the kids and coaches want to get back the next day and do it again.
And a good practice is normally shorter than a bad practice...
Scott Bailey Lamar HS Lamar, Missouri
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Post by funkfriss on Apr 13, 2015 8:48:06 GMT -6
Coaches, Im just brainstorming before I meet with my coaches this week. I would love to know from all of you on what makes a great practice. Basically if you were to just watch as a spectator what makes a great practice? I'm probably the opposite of all these "fast" guys. A good practice is organized, methodical, not rushed. Perfecting technique and all the coaches are on the same page, not hurrying through it just because "we gotta be fast". I like things broken into 15 minute increments...slow and steady, dont want to miss anything. Remember if a kid drills it wrong, it's because you allowed him to. I'll cop out and say that I'm in the middle. I like fast paced periods simulating game speed (actually faster than game speed) with minimal coaching, slow/intense indy periods with a lot of teaching (demonstration, bird-dog, heavy correction and immediate repetition) and some intense 1-on-1's, and a medium-high paced group/team time with lots of reps, but the ability to have quick verbal coaching between reps. Has anybody gone back and done a short indy period (5-10 min) following team to go through corrections from the team session? The thinking is to have immediate feedback and correction rather than waiting until tomorrow where it may be forgotten.
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Post by s73 on Apr 13, 2015 9:40:27 GMT -6
Agree with the above plus drill work that has noticeable correlation to Friday nights. Why would anyone do anything that doesn't have a noticeable correlation to friday nights? That's a great question but I have seen it a great deal. While I think everybody does SOME things that correlate to Friday nights, I have worked with and seen some guys who do stuff just to do stuff. Had an assistant years ago who LOVED doing all kinds of conditioning drills but our kids could not get off a block. Another example from same assistant is "bull in the ring" while several OL from our freshman team were still "hazy" about their blocking rules. Maybe I was clumsy w/ my communication, but what I intended to say is prioritize what you NEED for Fridays and cut out the "fluff". I think too much "fluff" in a practice is usually a sign of a position coach "wingin' it" rather then preparing his kids properly for Friday night. Again, JMO. PS - That's why I have learned to develop a list of EDD's and then coaches can check w/ me about making a change here or their if they feel something needs extra attention. This has helped our practices improve tremendously.
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Post by mariner42 on Apr 13, 2015 9:44:44 GMT -6
Why would anyone do anything that doesn't have a noticeable correlation to friday nights? Because some coaches are stuck in the past. How many jumping jacks have you seen on Friday night? While spelling their mascot or school name... I f*cking hate jumping jacks.
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Post by s73 on Apr 13, 2015 12:06:06 GMT -6
Because some coaches are stuck in the past. How many jumping jacks have you seen on Friday night? While spelling their mascot or school name... I f*cking hate jumping jacks. Guilty as charged. We do the JJ's w/ the mascot name. In my defense though, the whole thing takes about 8 seconds. Including the 3 claps in UNISON at the end
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2015 20:06:16 GMT -6
Has anybody gone back and done a short indy period (5-10 min) following team to go through corrections from the team session? The thinking is to have immediate feedback and correction rather than waiting until tomorrow where it may be forgotten. [/quote]
Several years ago when I attended an NIU practice (Northern IL) they had a five minute post practice period scripted in after team. All players went back to their position coaches to clean up anything that needed attention from that practice. The staff spoke highly of it.
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