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Post by saintrad on Nov 22, 2006 23:22:23 GMT -6
I agree with TOG here, you need to coach what you know. Being a former split back veer QB I love down blocks to help set up my reads, and I also love the play-action off the option look. BUT, having coached in spread offenses for the last 14 of 15 yrs I am comfortable in running a spread style run and gun. I still prefer to run the ball (usually 65% of the time regardless of formation) but if the defense gives me the pass I will take that too. Case in point was this season I went to using the double wing exclusively for my last 3 games just due to time constraints and loss of talent to grades and injuries. Great system, not my initial preference but it does the job.
The key to running the Meyers Spread is the QB. He has to be an athlete and a serious running threat. If you have a slow QB or one that cant make a decision then you are sunk.
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Post by coachjd on Nov 23, 2006 4:51:41 GMT -6
Khalfie Wrote:
Let’s see humor or sarcasm?
Khalfie wrote:
Khalfie wrote:
Your posts are not for me? So why would you insert a quote from my post?
I do not archive your post, just do a search, don’t humble yourself.
I will apoligize for calling you an a$$, totally uncalled for on my part.
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Post by los on Nov 23, 2006 8:50:24 GMT -6
I gotta agree with Brophy and Saintman about the spread in hs ball. QB's, QB's and more QB's! After 3 seasons we learned to zone block pretty well, our backs learned to use their eyes a little and found places to run, but our QB's never developed. They were already slow (which they couldnt help) lol, but never learned to make a quick decision or would nearly always make the wrong decision, usually resulting in 3-4 turnovers per game, which put us in a serious bind. Coming from the mindset where a QB is simply a ball distributor in the run game, occasional runner himself or throwing a playaction type pass with simple reads of(wide open-throw it or covered-scramble like hell), this idea of the QB having so much control/responsibility was kinda scary, lol! But the spread offense could be an awesome system at the HS level(nearly unstoppable) with the right guys in place.
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Post by khalfie on Nov 23, 2006 10:24:15 GMT -6
Let’s see humor or sarcasm?
Next time I'll leave you a smiley face so you won't be confused! ;D
Your posts are not for me? So why would you insert a quote from my post?
I read the posts... not who wrote them... to me, the topics are general discussions... not personal arguments... so when I read something I disagree with... I respond... not caring 1 iota who wrote it...
Was confused to why you had taken my post so personally... then realized I had used your last comment... it is what it is...
I will apoligize for calling you an a$$, totally uncalled for on my part.
I can respect that...
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Post by tog on Nov 23, 2006 10:56:14 GMT -6
kahlfie, cool
the one thing to keep in mind here to me is
when reading through the board, we should take into account who is saying what
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Post by saintrad on Nov 23, 2006 14:33:49 GMT -6
i agree TOG ... its just pixels on a screen with no emotions or intent... when you think something is getting too personal, step away from the computer, go outside and take a deep brearth and remember that it isnt really that important anyway
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Post by enzpville on Nov 23, 2006 17:23:57 GMT -6
My perspective on the spread has been one that zone combined with traditional option scheme is EXTREMELY effective. We have employed the spread system the past two years. Use the 6 vs. 7 theory for run and pass but where I feel the zone concept comes into play is the fact that the Read Option play is an unbelievable compliment to the Veer scheme. If you have patience and keep working at it, you will find that from 1st to 2nd half or week to week you will place your opponent in a great deal of flux. Consider if you (DE - 5 tech) are free released, do you actually know where the ball is going?  I liked the concept that was menitoned earlier about staying with a system you employed (Wing-T, Zone, Option) and then moving to the gun. Now look the "Spin" is getting a lot of momentum (looks a lot like Dbl Wing-T/Single Wing). |
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Post by los on Nov 23, 2006 20:24:58 GMT -6
Great point mathletics, our recievers were a big part of the QB's woes. Not running good routes or quitting on the route, not coming back to the ball or going to get it at the highest point, just poor fundamentals that really hurt you. Add "no speed or athletic ability" to that and you got a disaster lol!
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Post by yeti on Nov 27, 2006 9:18:38 GMT -6
Know what you coach and coach what you know (and believe in) There are many schemes that can be effective, Veer, Zone, DW, single wing. If you don't believe in it, neither will you kids. If you don't believe in it and can't "fake it till you make it" you should coach something else or somewhere else,
Just my opinion
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I liked the concept that was menitoned earlier about staying with a system you employed (Wing-T, Zone, Option) and then moving to the gun. Now look the "Spin" is getting a lot of momentum (looks a lot like Dbl Wing-T/Single Wing).