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Post by coachwoodall on Jan 13, 2015 20:22:42 GMT -6
I think that I saw on here that some schools/states require that football coaches take certification courses in order to be able to be hired/coach football. Do any of you guys have to have this in order to coach? Our district is pushing for this from us coaches and we are using the NFHS platform as the tool our certification.
What is your take on this?
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Post by rsmith627 on Jan 13, 2015 20:25:29 GMT -6
In Utah we do it through NFHS as well. Waste of time.
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Post by Coach V on Jan 13, 2015 20:59:39 GMT -6
Yes a waste of time. Basically read a bunch of slides take a test on it, then... Pay $52 for the certification. That's the cost in California anyway.
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Post by coachwoodall on Jan 13, 2015 21:43:53 GMT -6
well at least our district is footing the bill....
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Post by coachwoodall on Jan 13, 2015 21:44:54 GMT -6
and the QB skills section has never heard of 'getting to zero'.......
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Post by brophy on Jan 13, 2015 21:58:30 GMT -6
Ultimately, its a CYA for liability for school districts, right or wrong.
In Iowa, I had to take 4 courses to get certified that covered basic physiology, ethics, coaching methods, and rules. These are classes I paid for out of my pocket to get certified.
In Louisiana, I couldn't take classes to get certified unless I was on a staff who would be endorsing me. You can't get on a staff unless you're certified. The certification process was pay the money, spend 3 hours listening to a lecture about the state athletic association and who runs the organization (over half the presentation was just on the LHSAA operating officer). A small portion was on Association by-laws/rules. That was it.
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Post by coachbdud on Jan 13, 2015 23:26:15 GMT -6
I think that I saw on here that some schools/states require that football coaches take certification courses in order to be able to be hired/coach football. Do any of you guys have to have this in order to coach? Our district is pushing for this from us coaches and we are using the NFHS platform as the tool our certification. What is your take on this? in CA (or at least my section) there is a coaching principles class you have to do through NFHS -offered online now, when i first started you had to take an actual class with someone for a whole day, then do the test. Now it is all easy online... that is how you know I am old now) we also now have to do a "concussion" training test (last 2 years i think)... same thing, all online, this one is free, and takes about 20 minutes... our district last year implemented coaches needed a "mandatory child abuse reporter" training... they weren't super strict on this, because a few missed the training and the district just said to please do it next time it was offered i get this as part of our yearly teacher staff development day so i didnt have to attend this saturday training, but our HC went (he is off campus)
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Post by coachguy83 on Jan 14, 2015 1:53:37 GMT -6
In IL if you are not a teacher you have to be certified by ASEP. The curriculum is coaching principals, sports first aid, and state organization rules and by-laws. The state organization also required continuing education type things every once in a while through their website. This past season it was concussions and PEDs.
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Post by coachmonkey on Jan 14, 2015 12:43:46 GMT -6
Football coaching or coaching? If you have a choice I would recommend a USATF Track course or ustfccca Speed Coach certification. These were very informative. I learned speed development through them which has paid off big time. I want to take Level 2, but it's costly.
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Post by mfore250 on Jan 14, 2015 13:57:13 GMT -6
In AL, we have to be cpr certified and take coaching fundmentals, first aid, concussion, star sportsmanship and heat and illness courses, in order to coach. You have to have all of these done by the end of your second year to not get fined by the state.
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Post by coachwoodall on Feb 7, 2015 8:22:08 GMT -6
I've been finishing up the NFHS courses. I'm in the middle of the Fundamentals of Football.
I think I've actually lost several coaching IQ points in the process. A couple of gems: - putting your RB in a 4 point stance may help him - apparently some of you guys still make your WRs get in 3 point stances - "flipper" blocking is how a RB should pass pro - LBs vs 21 personnel should just open up and drop regardless of the passing concept
Oh, and apparently there is a universal football terminology, some of which I've yet to come across.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2015 8:29:04 GMT -6
I've been finishing up the NFHS courses. I'm in the middle of the Fundamentals of Football. I think I've actually lost several coaching IQ points in the process. A couple of gems: - putting your RB in a 4 point stance may help him - apparently some of you guys still make your WRs get in 3 point stances - "flipper" blocking is how a RB should pass pro - LBs vs 21 personnel should just open up and drop regardless of the passing concept Oh, and apparently there is a universal football terminology, some of which I've yet to come across. talk about about evolution...
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Post by coachwoodall on Feb 8, 2015 15:21:01 GMT -6
Okay am I reading this wrong or what:
Q: The first step a defensive lineman should take when using a slant technique should be? ---Correct answer:Step across his body with the foot opposite the side you want to go.
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Post by realdawg on Feb 8, 2015 17:05:49 GMT -6
Our school system required the NFHS certification "Fundamentals of Coaching" a few years ago. They paid for it, but it was not nearly so football specific. It was just general BS philosophy stuff and talked a ton about setting good examples and "teachable moments"
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Post by wolfden12 on Feb 8, 2015 22:12:40 GMT -6
It seems that cost and certifications are becoming more and more excessive as the years go by. I know this is a carry over in the education field as well.
We need the following:
BCI/FBI check - $52 NFHS classes: Concussion and Coaching Fundamentals - $60 CPR - $25 - renewed every 2 years PAV (pupil advisory certification) - $25- renewed every 2 years 20 pages of paperwork for the district
Sadly, depending on the district some coaches are having to flip the bill for this.
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Post by gr8bigbull on Feb 15, 2015 19:18:35 GMT -6
Definitely CYA and some agency raking in money from the very people who want to coach kids while incurring financial loss. In Kentucky you must get certification through NFHS, get CPR/AED certified, complete a rules certification just to get on the field, court, track. Our district also adds in the "Character First" seminar that covers all coaches and how to conduct themselves or basically handle the problem parents and kids who would likely call and complain about playing time, discipline. money, etc.
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Post by Chris Clement on Feb 15, 2015 20:18:49 GMT -6
Whatever you do, don't follow Football Canada's model.
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Post by runitupthemiddle on Feb 15, 2015 21:44:23 GMT -6
Oklahoma U need to take 3 test to become a teacher. To coach u just need care prevention of Injuries and that is recommended if u are a lay coach that only works for a stipend.
I think all states have gone to the concussion test to take every year plus the heat awareness test.
Our head coach has to record the temp at the beginning of practice each day now and how long we spent in practice. State has t said what they need the Info for, but we think they are about to Limit contact during the week.
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Post by runitupthemiddle on Feb 15, 2015 22:21:49 GMT -6
Of course they would like you or someone on staff to be CPR certified every 2 years and lots of districts want you to be cdl, especially small districts
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Post by wolverine55 on Feb 16, 2015 18:11:12 GMT -6
Brophy posted the Iowa route above. It may be a tad different now, but it's still basically four classes consolidated into two weekends. One of the classes we had to tape an ankle and I did so poorly at it the instructor asked me if I'd ever have to tape an ankle in real life. I told him that we had a trainer and at least two other coaches who could tape ankles. Once I assured him I'd never actually have to tape an ankle, he passed me!
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