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Post by cc on Jul 29, 2006 15:28:10 GMT -6
Coaches,
I am working in an area with parents that think their kids are superstars (aren't we all?). But this is unreal.
One set of parents will not let their kid play unless he has like straight 90%. The kid is not that far off.
Any suggestions or tips on how to deal with this???
CC
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Post by blb on Jul 29, 2006 15:40:05 GMT -6
Don't know what you mean by "he has like straight 90%." Ninety per cent of what?
My suggestion or tip is to get in touch with coachcalande. He has the answer for every situation (search coachcalande above).
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Post by coachcalande on Jul 29, 2006 15:52:18 GMT -6
Coaches, I am working in an area with parents that think their kids are superstars (aren't we all?). But this is unreal. One set of parents will not let their kid play unless he has like straight 90%. The kid is not that far off. Any suggestions or tips on how to deal with this??? CC ah....the "agents" as we refer to them... |
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Post by coachcalande on Jul 29, 2006 15:52:43 GMT -6
Don't know what you mean by "he has like straight 90%." Ninety per cent of what? My suggestion or tip is to get in touch with coachcalande. He has the answer for every situation (search coachcalande above). yes, I am truly all knowing arent I? ;D |
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Post by coachcalande on Jul 29, 2006 16:16:17 GMT -6
Hey blb no harm no foul. we probably disagree as much as wildcat and i disagree...but who cares...would be kinda boring around here if we all thought the same about everything...oh yeah, thats the double wing site. lol..
hmmm back to the point of the thread...i think if a parent wants his kids to focus on academics (assuming thats what the 90% issue is) that you reinforce the idea that YOUR PRIORITIES are in order...
faith
family
ACADEMICS
football
so you support their desires...show the parents that youll be every bit as invested in the boys school successes as on the field success...just one middle school coaches opinion.
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Post by bulldog on Jul 29, 2006 16:55:18 GMT -6
I would suggest supporting the parents in their desire to see their kid get great grades. If the parents set that kind of standard, then realize:
- their standard takes precedence and you should not undermine them in any way. Instead, talk with them and see if you can support their effort - get them on your side. Then talk with them about the team, his commitment and team values. Don't expect them to care about the team, it's goals, or your need for his playing ability. Expect them to have a completely singular focus on their kid - and that they don't care about him playing football.
- the kid was told about the standard and it is up to him to live up to it.
- football is an after-school activity and is supposed to support the academic experience, not visa versa.
- many more scholarships are available for academics than athletics.
- the 'problem' you have with the parents is extremely minor in the scheme of things.
I'm not sure what you meant by the 'superstar' comment - or maybe I am missing something.
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Post by coachcalande on Jul 29, 2006 17:23:40 GMT -6
I do believe there are numberous studies that show that athletes or kids involved in extracurricular activities tend to achieve more in school...that stuff should help your case.
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Post by eagled on Jul 29, 2006 20:27:24 GMT -6
I agree with supporting the parents stand and also with getting on their side. I would also point out to the parents that studies have proven that kids who participate in extracurricular activities do better in school and in life in general. I would also point out that football is one of the best extracurriculars a kid can participate in.
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Post by cc on Jul 30, 2006 1:42:34 GMT -6
By "Superstar" I meant that the parents think their kids are going to get Straight A's (that is also the 90% comment) and go off to univeristy to be doctors or engineers.
Too often they dont realize that their son may not have this academic ability or desire.
But they take aways sports as a punishment and over and over again I see the kids rebel or simply not make the changes in their life to get the grades their parents want them to get.
So the problem is, the kid had a C+ average for last year without playing sports. So they are punishing him this year by again NOT LETTING HIM PLAY SPORTS as they want him to focus on his grades.
There is nothing positive for this kid just the parents putting a lot of stress on him and not listening to his point of view.
So thoughts on how to deal with this? FYI The parents are very religious and they think the only thing the kid should be doing is school and church. That's their priorioty list.
I don't agree...and I am having a hard time understanding it. I guess my parents were much more liberal...
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Post by coachcalande on Jul 30, 2006 3:50:36 GMT -6
question for you..did the boy tell you this or did the parents tell you this?
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Post by kcbazooka on Jul 30, 2006 5:35:44 GMT -6
I think the parents have every right to hold their kid out of sports.
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Post by blb on Jul 30, 2006 6:18:43 GMT -6
Of course the parents have the right, but as a believer in the values of Educational Interscholastic Athletics, I think they're misguided.
Also, the single biggest predictor of success in college? Not GPA, not class rank, not ACT or SAT: Participation in extra-curricular activities in high school.
Sorry, cc, don't have an answer for you on this one. It's a family issue that they'll have to resolve. I can't see how you can win if you get involved.
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Post by davecisar on Jul 30, 2006 6:20:58 GMT -6
Amen, The kid may have all the potential in the world and wasted it by getting C+s.
Parents 99% of the time know their kids better than coaches do and most of them are in a better position to set priorities for their own children than a coach that most of the kids will never see again once they graduate and may have his own prioritites that have nothing to do with the students/familys priorities.
If a coach tried to intervene with my kids/family and tell me where my kids prioritities should be that would be the last time they ever saw my kid on "their" field.
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Post by stackattack on Jul 30, 2006 8:47:38 GMT -6
Back in January a friend of mine get the head coaching job at a very academically rigid school and brought me and some others with him. We knew what we were getting into and made academics a major priority of our new staff. We are starting study tables after practice for EVERY player. Recently, a mother of a very talented sophomore RB pulled her son from football because she was not satified with his grades. Can't say that I blamed her, b/c her son was getting D's. The HC, me, and the OC sat down with the mom and player and expressed our desire to see her son play football but also reinforced the idea that our priorities are the same as her's...academics come first. We told her that her son would be required to attend study tables, where us coaches and tutors will be made available for her son. We set guidelines and academic goals for him. If he falls short, there will be playing time lost. She was thrilled at the steps we are taking to ensure the academic success of our players and is now allowing her son to play. I thought I would share my story in hopes there is something you can take from it.
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Post by fbdoc on Jul 30, 2006 13:07:22 GMT -6
I can second what stackattack shared. I've never had a parent not agree to a pro-active plan for academic success when they have been approached in a positive manner. We also like to share that there are many more scholarship opportunities available for student athletes who have good grades as opposed to the "dime a dozen" good students who have no area of merit, other than their grades. Make sure you can articulate all of the benefits (character building as well as scholarships) to the parents and then follow through with the players to make sure they are holding up their end.
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