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Post by s1ngwing on Dec 26, 2014 11:54:55 GMT -6
We have about 75 kids in our JV and Varsity program. We have 6 coaches in our program. My question is this: How do you guys get more kids involved in practice? During our indy drill periods everyone is getting reps. When we go to small group like inside run or 7 on 7 less kids are involved and when we go team even fewer involved and a lot of kids off to the side not doing anything. What sort of things do you do during team periods to get more kids involved and growing as players?
Thanks for any ideas.
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Post by coachklee on Dec 26, 2014 12:19:03 GMT -6
2 scout groups for offense & 2 scout groups for defense. If O & D are both going that is up to 66 guys going...
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Post by rudyrude9 on Dec 26, 2014 12:22:25 GMT -6
Take your JVs and have them run their own Skelly, Inside, Team. That will take your numbers down in the 40's. Then have 2 scout groups vs your 1's and 2's. Pretty good numbers to have.
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Post by bluboy on Dec 26, 2014 12:22:37 GMT -6
We are in a similar situation. This year we had 95 kids in grades 10-12 and 6 paid coaches and 2 volunteer. Everyone gets reps during individual. During group and team those kids who are not in the top two groups go down and work against the frosh (seniors do not go with this group). If it is an offensive period, one of the defensive coaches goes with this group, and vice versa.
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Post by bruinfb on Dec 26, 2014 15:52:30 GMT -6
We have similar numbers, but we only have 5 coaches. We also do not two-platoon, many of our kids go both ways. During Team Offense for we will keep the 1's 2's and 3's with the Varsity, so we have 33 guys to mix in. The JV coaches take the guys who are not on the top 3 Offenses and go work Team with the same script and 2 Look Defenses.
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Post by dytmook on Dec 26, 2014 16:08:52 GMT -6
I'm not sure how much your coaches specialize, but what we do is if it is an offense day while the Varsity and Varsity scout guys go over this weeks offensive stuff, the defensive coaches take the younger kids and work extra defensive indy and group. Then the next day flip.
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Post by groundchuck on Dec 26, 2014 16:09:04 GMT -6
We always try and have two groups for scout O whenever we can. Our younger levels do not stand around and watch. If they are not directly involved in team period they are running plays on cans. Even if they're running plays half line it's better than watching.
That was a huge culture change for us when I arrived.
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Post by coachwoodall on Dec 26, 2014 17:34:31 GMT -6
I'm imagining the biggest hurdle is having the coaches available to supervise/run any alternative periods. Maybe try this:
When you're in these group/team periods where your varsity is getting the majority of the reps, split the scout reps with the JV. For example, you've got a team defensive period for Arch Rival HS. Instead of have the scout O run just ARHS plays, go 2 huddles with the scout O and the JV. Your script goes like this:
1- D front call/coverage vs. ARHS FavRun Play #1
1b- ditto vs. JV #1 run call
etc......
That way you get twice the reps in about the same time frame, plus you service your JV offense. You might even see some holes in your game plan that you didn't expect, or you may even rep a concept you didn't consider.
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Post by racehorse on Dec 26, 2014 20:26:16 GMT -6
I wish we had this problem. First, with 60+ players, I'd do everything possible to be 2 platooned. If you can't with the number of coaches, see if you can hire more if you do fund raising to pay them something. If you want to keep having this "problem" you need to get more kids on the field. To get more coaches, we sometimes get recent grads volunteer as coaches and they work with the JVs.
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Post by fcboiler87 on Dec 26, 2014 21:34:21 GMT -6
We are hopeful to have over 60 on our team next year. We are a mid size school of around 700 and feel we need to utilize our players both ways, though we try to limit the number starting as much as possible. What we plan to do is much like someone else mentioned. In inside run, 7 on 7 and team periods, we are going to have our JV (we do not have freshman teams in our league but this includes freshman players) unit doing their own group periods. That should leave us with 30 and 30. It should increase the reps for the young kids and it will put more responsibility on some of our coaches.
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Post by s1ngwing on Dec 26, 2014 21:57:19 GMT -6
Our county only allows us 8 paid and 2 volunteers total. We are not allowed more then 10 coaches. I have 4 on freshman and 6 sharing JV and Varsity. It is not about volunteers because we are not allowed any more even if recent graduates who "just" help out.
Thanks for the ideas, keep them coming.
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Post by coachkb14 on Dec 27, 2014 11:19:39 GMT -6
Our county only allows us 8 paid and 2 volunteers total. We are not allowed more then 10 coaches. I have 4 on freshman and 6 sharing JV and Varsity. It is not about volunteers because we are not allowed any more even if recent graduates who "just" help out. Thanks for the ideas, keep them coming. Coach, do your freshmen practice at the same time as you? We have a similar situation. Our freshman practice with us so I have my young JV guys, really a bunch of sophomores that don't play much JV, practice against the freshmen. I have my varsity doing offense and I send my DC down with the young JV to teach them the defense along with 1 or 2 other coaches. I usually stand in the middle to watch both. Been doing this for 2 years now. Pretty good results, especially for freshmen. They get good competition in practice and it shows in games. And I dont have to worry about kids playing grab ass on the side for Varsity so it's helped us be more efficient there as well. |
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Post by s1ngwing on Dec 29, 2014 8:34:25 GMT -6
coachkb14We have a four man freshman staff and they practice separate from us.I have always kept the freshman completely separate from us so they could focus on their guys. It does sound like a great idea as long as it is well coordinated and organized.
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Post by coachwoodall on Dec 30, 2014 14:35:02 GMT -6
Another thing to consider that I didn't mention. You need to make sure you communicate well with players and parents when you mix the levels (which I still think is a win-win all the way around). We encountered several parents who didn't like the idea of their CTeam(Fr) going against a JV kid. Many parents don't realize that there isn't much difference between the 2 and that we wouldn't put any kids into a situation that would not be beneficial to every one involved.
We lost a couple of kids because their parents couldn't understand this. We argued until we were blue in the face which one parent that a 9th grader vs. a 10th was no different than they had just been in middle school with 7th vs. 8th. Nor would it be any different when they came back out the next year as a 10th vs. 11th/12th.
Just foot for thought
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