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Post by senatorblutarsky on Nov 12, 2007 11:30:46 GMT -6
What do your states do regarding classification of public and private schools?
I know some states are separate... some have multipliers.
In Nebraska: No multiplier, private schools compete in classifications based on their actual enrollment number (3 year number... 9-11).
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Post by superpower on Nov 12, 2007 11:42:46 GMT -6
Ditto for Kansas...no multiplier
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Post by 20x on Nov 12, 2007 12:18:10 GMT -6
Iowa is the same.
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Post by Coach Huey on Nov 12, 2007 12:22:16 GMT -6
texas has separate divisions for private and public. the private schools are vastly divided into various sections/classifications. partly due to this, 2 of the bigger private schools in the state were allowed to lobby & petition our state athletic governing body for public schools to participate. the "multiplier" they must use is they have to double their enrollment -- this is because both are all boy schools so a 1,000 student population at their school is treated like a 2,000 student population in the public setting. they must now adhere to the athletic guidelines all other public schools must follow -- i.e. no recruiting for athletic purposes and an athlete can not admittedly move/enroll in another school (within the public schools) specifically for athletic purposes.
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Post by poweriguy on Nov 12, 2007 12:53:19 GMT -6
In CA it pretty much depends on the section rules where the school is. In our section there is no multiplier and classification is based on enrollment. But private schools can petion the section commissioner to move up or down a division. Few years ago a private school won every game and section title for 3 years in division 5 , now they have moved up one division to 4 and now are not as dominant as before.
Now other sections in the state...no clue.
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Post by deaux68 on Nov 12, 2007 13:35:59 GMT -6
Alabama has two divisions. AHSAA and AISA. The AHSAA gets most of the pub and most of the support from the community. Therefore there are plenty of private schools that play AHSAA. Their kids count 1.5 towards the total.
This is relatively new. I think it was instituted in the early 2000's or late '90's. Before that you had the lower classifications being dominated by private schools.
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Post by coachbdud on Nov 12, 2007 14:17:36 GMT -6
in CA it depends if it is an all boys school or not. If it is both genders then it is their actual enrollment, but for any single gender school the enrollment is doubled
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Post by fbdoc on Nov 12, 2007 14:19:04 GMT -6
Florida goes strictly by enrollment (except for single gender schools - then its doubled). No modifier for public vs private.
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Post by lionhart on Nov 12, 2007 14:42:09 GMT -6
new jersey has separate playoffs for the parochial schools. they play publics during the regular season, but come playoff time the parochials are separated into 4 groups (4 being the largest, 1 being the smallest) so when its all said and done, there are 4 parochial state champions (one for each group size) this works out well because the best play the best
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Post by coachdawhip on Nov 12, 2007 16:59:52 GMT -6
GA had a multiplier we have now gotten rid of it, for the upcoming 2 years.
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Post by wingtol on Nov 12, 2007 17:02:24 GMT -6
PA is all the same no multipler and really in football private vs. public hasn't been a big issue. Every few years a private will win a state title but its not dominated. PA has had a title game since 1988 only, since then out of all 4 classes (76 titles) only 9 have been private. Now in basketball thats another story....
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Post by djwesp on Nov 12, 2007 17:16:27 GMT -6
1.75 here.
A few bad apples ruining it for everyone. If the AAA would just enforce the rules, there would be no need for a multiplier, but instead they let a select few private schools openly recruit. This really hurts the schools that are doing things right.
We have a school here that had a head basketball coach go on a "mission trip" and come back with 3 all state basketball players (division 1-A) players. They pay no tuition, go to school for free, and were not even impoverished in Africa. This same school had a booster go to another school, get a kid, then pay everything for him to go to their private school, then they even wrote a happy newspaper article about it!
I'll repeat. I DO NOT LIKE OUR MULTIPLIER. I like enforcement of our associations rules. That should be the focus here, and when a school HAS BOOSTERS ADMIT TO RECRUITING, they should be punished appropriately.
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Post by wildcat on Nov 12, 2007 17:57:23 GMT -6
Illinois
Any open enrollment school (not just Catholic schools) gets their actual enrollment multiplied by 1.65 for the postseason.
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Post by Coach Goodnight on Nov 12, 2007 18:40:02 GMT -6
I think that in Oklahoma there is no multiplier either, just based on actual enrollment.
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Post by mitch on Nov 13, 2007 8:54:39 GMT -6
That's right Coach Goodknight, no multiplier in Oklahoma. This has been a very hot topic here, as the state association is letting several private schools in over the next few years. As you can imagine, there aren't many public school guys happy about it.
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