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Post by airraider on Dec 15, 2014 20:14:05 GMT -6
Anyone have these in their area?
I have been coaching in the private school realm for the past 5 years... we have played 2 or 3 of these over that time period.
I am thinking of getting into a teaching spot that would not offer a coaching position... so was thinking of maybe looking into starting a Home School team...
Any experience out there?
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Post by larrymoe on Dec 16, 2014 6:48:45 GMT -6
We have one in Illinois that I know of and they are terrible. And by terrible, I mean they are consistently the worst team in the state. Or close to it. Couple years ago they got beat by 50 by a team we beat by 60.
Without facilities, a common time and place to meet for practices such as the end of school and I'm sure a WIDE disparity in parent's attitudes on what their children's commitment level to the sport should be, I have no idea why anyone would WANT to coach one of these teams.
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Post by coachg125 on Dec 16, 2014 7:12:03 GMT -6
In South Florida, I can only think of one team like that and they don't sponsor football, but in other sports - they are pretty bad. It's pretty common for them to be mercy ruled in their soccer matches. And, if not mercy ruled, it's either pretty close or a shutout.
Basically, if you lose to them, you know you are pretty bad yourself.
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Post by kcbazooka on Dec 16, 2014 16:02:34 GMT -6
I know of a couple schools in our area. Christ Prep out of Lenexa, Kansas was pretty good this past season. They are not a full member of the Kansas Association so they can do things other schools might not be able to do. We played them early in season and they had several more practices and just as importantly several more padded practices than we had.
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Post by coachwoodall on Dec 16, 2014 19:05:36 GMT -6
There are a few in SC. They mostly play verses small class A schools. Basically they are HS aged peewee teams. Some are pretty fair, but they aren't burring up the state. They compete outside the SCHSL.
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Post by airraider on Dec 16, 2014 19:09:14 GMT -6
We are a small private league, and we have played these teams over the years although they are not in our league. Some play in a small Christian league.. and one for sure is independent.
The "National" Homeschool association now states that only 50% of your team has to be made up of homeschool students. Now sure if that means for the teams who play in the championship deal in Florida or what.
The other half of the kids who are not homeschool kids are kids who cannot play for their school for whatever reason. Some may not have the grades, maybe just outside of the age range of their association, or their school may simply not have football.
The teams we played were all very athletic... had a few stud kids... but the others kind of balanced them out.
If we do start this team up, we will schedule the other state homeschool teams... and as many teams from our current league as possible.
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Post by jamesbb on Dec 16, 2014 20:24:12 GMT -6
This thread caught my eye. A good friend of mine got himself in quite a mess with one of these "homeschool" groups. I would recommend ANYONE steer clear of them. Foremost, the liability of founding one of these things is quite high. He got and a couple of parents started a team two or three years ago - no organization...Christian Educators Association, etc...behind them. Kid goes down in practice, concussion - mom is pissed and looking to hang the blame on someone. Lawyer gets involved, bad deal.
Now, the same issues could happen while coaching at a public or private school - but in those situations you have a group behind you, they are covered insurance-wise and legality-wise. People who start these fly-by-night "homeschool" teams don't have that backing. If a kid, God forbid, was to suffer significant/life threatening injury during a "homeschool" practice or game - YOU are looking at serious legal ramifications because its all your creation. A waiver won't hold water when you get into that situation. Luckily, my guy was able to get out of anything serious - but it got rough on him for a while, lots of legal back and forth. Needless to say the team isn't around anymore.
Also, I can't see where filling out a schedule would be easy with a group like this. Is there a large league of "homeschool" teams in your area. We are in the middle of a cycle here, so scheduling would be pretty tough. Even during scheduling years here, most are done by January or so.
Finally, do you not feel there might be an issue working for a school district but coaching a "homeschool" group?
I'm not a fan - these things are becoming like AAU basketball, lots of kids who have very rough pasts hanging out all week and playing on weekends. Kids enrolled in various schools, no formal process of eligibility or age or anything else. I don't see the allure of that, especially if your already coaching in a traditional school setting.
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Post by airraider on Dec 16, 2014 21:21:03 GMT -6
This thread caught my eye. A good friend of mine got himself in quite a mess with one of these "homeschool" groups. I would recommend ANYONE steer clear of them. Foremost, the liability of founding one of these things is quite high. He got and a couple of parents started a team two or three years ago - no organization...Christian Educators Association, etc...behind them. Kid goes down in practice, concussion - mom is pissed and looking to hang the blame on someone. Lawyer gets involved, bad deal. Now, the same issues could happen while coaching at a public or private school - but in those situations you have a group behind you, they are covered insurance-wise and legality-wise. People who start these fly-by-night "homeschool" teams don't have that backing. If a kid, God forbid, was to suffer significant/life threatening injury during a "homeschool" practice or game - YOU are looking at serious legal ramifications because its all your creation. A waiver won't hold water when you get into that situation. Luckily, my guy was able to get out of anything serious - but it got rough on him for a while, lots of legal back and forth. Needless to say the team isn't around anymore. Also, I can't see where filling out a schedule would be easy with a group like this. Is there a large league of "homeschool" teams in your area. We are in the middle of a cycle here, so scheduling would be pretty tough. Even during scheduling years here, most are done by January or so. Finally, do you not feel there might be an issue working for a school district but coaching a "homeschool" group? I'm not a fan - these things are becoming like AAU basketball, lots of kids who have very rough pasts hanging out all week and playing on weekends. Kids enrolled in various schools, no formal process of eligibility or age or anything else. I don't see the allure of that, especially if your already coaching in a traditional school setting. I do not feel that liability would differ much from a little league team. Sure some leagues are set up to provide coverage, but not all are. The team I am most familiar with has a $3 million policy annually. Several teams in my current league plays these few home school teams. I could not see why my teaching gig would be affected by such an endeavor. |
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Post by fantom on Dec 16, 2014 22:21:02 GMT -6
This thread caught my eye. A good friend of mine got himself in quite a mess with one of these "homeschool" groups. I would recommend ANYONE steer clear of them. Foremost, the liability of founding one of these things is quite high. He got and a couple of parents started a team two or three years ago - no organization...Christian Educators Association, etc...behind them. Kid goes down in practice, concussion - mom is pissed and looking to hang the blame on someone. Lawyer gets involved, bad deal. Now, the same issues could happen while coaching at a public or private school - but in those situations you have a group behind you, they are covered insurance-wise and legality-wise. People who start these fly-by-night "homeschool" teams don't have that backing. If a kid, God forbid, was to suffer significant/life threatening injury during a "homeschool" practice or game - YOU are looking at serious legal ramifications because its all your creation. A waiver won't hold water when you get into that situation. Luckily, my guy was able to get out of anything serious - but it got rough on him for a while, lots of legal back and forth. Needless to say the team isn't around anymore. Also, I can't see where filling out a schedule would be easy with a group like this. Is there a large league of "homeschool" teams in your area. We are in the middle of a cycle here, so scheduling would be pretty tough. Even during scheduling years here, most are done by January or so. Finally, do you not feel there might be an issue working for a school district but coaching a "homeschool" group? I'm not a fan - these things are becoming like AAU basketball, lots of kids who have very rough pasts hanging out all week and playing on weekends. Kids enrolled in various schools, no formal process of eligibility or age or anything else. I don't see the allure of that, especially if your already coaching in a traditional school setting. I do not feel that liability would differ much from a little league team. Sure some leagues are set up to provide coverage, but not all are. The team I am most familiar with has a $3 million policy annually. Several teams in my current league plays these few home school teams. I could not see why my teaching gig would be affected by such an endeavor. A lot of public school administrators don't look on home schooling very kindly. |
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Post by jamesbb on Dec 16, 2014 22:43:25 GMT -6
I could not see why my teaching gig would be affected by such an endeavor. A lot of public school administrators don't look on home schooling very kindly. Exactly. With funding tied into enrollment numbers and many other reasons - creating opportunities for "homeschool" students while on (I assume) a public school's payroll may not sit well. It might become even more uneasy if the direction of your proposed program becomes like - seemingly - most "homeschool" outfits these days and includes kids actually enrolled in other public schools...I'd just think that would cause some conflict. The dynamics in your state/region may be totally different, just my thoughts on it. Does your state have any sort of Tebow rule allowing truly home-schools kids to participate in high school athletics? I know several states do - those honestly negate the need for any teams like this, I'd think. |
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