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Post by blb on Jan 1, 2015 8:59:51 GMT -6
Excused is church or school obligations, family emergency, and illness. Unexcused is everything else. Coach, do they have to let you know ahead of time to count as excused?
Yes, and I don't like hearing it from a buddy - "Johnny wanted me to tell you he is sick today..."
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Post by fantom on Jan 1, 2015 12:12:49 GMT -6
Coach, do they have to let you know ahead of time to count as excused?
Yes, and I don't like hearing it from a buddy - "Johnny wanted me to tell you he is sick today..."
Why can't he be sick here? If he feels bad at home why not feel bad here? If he needs to puke, we have plenty of room for that. Don't breathe on anybody, though, especially me.
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Post by 33coach on Jan 2, 2015 13:25:08 GMT -6
I would appreciate it to hear what you consider excused and unexcused absences for your players. Excused is death in family or contagious sickness... Otherwise get your a$$ to practice Sent from my VS980 4G using proboards
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Post by jelotts on Jan 9, 2015 9:26:57 GMT -6
Very hard to classify excused / unexcused. have seen parents lie on behalf of their kids, etc... we have a simple policy. if you are not at practice you dont start. the player who IS at practice and who takes the reps during the week deserves the opportunity to start. more of a rewarding the players who do show up vs punishing those who dont This is very close to our take. If you miss practice for an unexcused reason, we follow the schools policy, you do not play for a quarter and you must run. IF you miss 2 you miss 2 quarters and so on....... If it is excused and you have 2 in a week you will not start. I do agree it is a tough call to classify excused and unexcused, but all we can do is go on what the school and parents tell us.
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Post by shocktroop34 on Jan 9, 2015 11:38:08 GMT -6
I tell the parents like this, if your son missed math class on Wednesday and/or Thursday you would have a fit if the teacher tried to test him on Friday! Football is the same way, can't miss the lesson and expect to test on Friday. (I know this is not true 100% of the time, but it is 90%) Just a hypothetical here but what if your captain, who attends everything under the sun, has beyond a firm grasp of his assignments and how they relate to the rest of the positions, heads to a college visit on a Thursday...he's not playing for you on Friday night/Saturday? Coach Bennett brings up a valid and realistic point. This is the rule of thumb that I go by, and I explain it to parents and player so much that they know it verbatim: Reasons happen before hand, excuses happen after.
So based on that premiss, funerals, college visits, sickness, school functions, etc. can typically be communicated before hand. Anything beyond that, which is communicated after the desired time is simply an excuse. There better be a unique set of circumstances in order for me to overlook an excuse. Do they happen? Yes, but it is few and far between. As blb stated, nothing drives me up a wall faster than second hand excuses. This point must be made clear early and often. "Well I told Johnny to tell you." "Well Johnny doesn't coach this team, I do." The other idea (based on Coach Bennett's analogy) is something I learned from Hall of Fame Basketball Coach Morgan Wootten. He said that he handles each and every situation individually. Otherwise, the rules you set in place may come back to haunt you. His concept was 'why should I handcuff myself or the team based on a rule that may not apply to the circumstances?' So when people ask me what my discipline policy is, I tell them that I follow school policy, my reasons vs. excuses policy, and anything beyond that will be handled on an individual basis. It has been stated on here many-a-time, that the more rules you have, the more rules you have to uphold. As the HC, I give myself the liberty to decide what is acceptable and what is not. If I can't be given that degree of trust, I am probably not the coach for that particular program. On some cases (even slight ones) I have called mom or dad and said, 'hey this is what I was told,' only to find out the kid was lying. In other cases, I've called home and said, 'this is what happened, I want your thoughts on what I should do with him.' Some coaches may not be comfortable bringing a parent into the fold like that. I certainly wouldn't do it with every parent in every situation. But even in the prickly relationships, the parent might appreciate being a part of the process. You may have to tell them, you can't do that all the time, but you wanted their insight on this particular situation. The times that I have done it, the parent wanted me to kick their hind parts all up and down the field. I usually have to pull back the reigns. The parent would have a worse consequence in mind and would have to tell them I don't need to go that far. I typically found more support than I bargained for. It all depends on the climate and nature of the relationships you have in your program. I know I threw a lot out there...just food for thought.
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