viking
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Post by viking on Dec 12, 2014 14:49:55 GMT -6
Anyone here do most of the play calling on both sides of the ball on Friday nights? I know it isn't ideal, and involves a lot of communication and delegation with assistants, but I think it might be best for us right now.
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Post by jg78 on Dec 12, 2014 15:37:37 GMT -6
Anyone here do most of the play calling on both sides of the ball on Friday nights? I know it isn't ideal, and involves a lot of communication and delegation with assistants, but I think it might be best for us right now. I have done it before. It's hard to do, especially on offense. I was once HC/DC/OC after having been just a DC for (at that time) eight years. I wore all three hats for two years. The next year I found someone to run the defense while I did this offense. Man, it helped so much being able to withdraw from the game just a bit between series and think ahead and have a few plays ready to go when we got back on offense. Whenever I am an HC again if I don't have someone I trust to do one side of the ball while I do the other, I will do both. But it's very hard doing both. |
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Post by captainken on Dec 13, 2014 8:50:40 GMT -6
i don't know your current situation and apparently the lack of quality assistants. I think you would be better off concentrating on the HC/ offense as in my opinion it is more difficult to call and adjust during the game.
Hire an assistant in the offseason that you can teach to call d. Go with a basic d package and rep the crap out of the technique. Meet with the Dc to go over the gameplan and how you want him to defend different formations.
During the game you both have headsets, if you want to run something specific in a situation tell him and let him call it.
Not everyone is going to know as much as you do, so teach them. Sometimes they might know more than you give them credit for. They might just have a different opinion. Having a yes man who just blindly agrees with you will never challenge your thinking and broaden your ways of looking at things.
Trying to be all three of the big three is setting yourself up to fail. Jack of all trades, master of none. Just my 2 cents.
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Post by coachphillip on Dec 14, 2014 9:53:02 GMT -6
You can always run a defense that has auto checks and calls built in. It'll be simpler to run because you'll be able to think about the last offensive series for a bit while just making sure the guys line up right based on the formation.
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Post by wingtol on Dec 14, 2014 10:15:58 GMT -6
I don't necessarily call both sides but we are a small school with guys going boths ways and 6 coaches. I am the DC and OL coach with a fair amount of input on play calling, I think it could be done if you have the right experience and are able to delegate some stuff on game night. Like having an assistant you can tell adjustments to take care of when you switch sides of the ball. Also running the right systems is key. We are Wing-T and run a 3-3 that we really don't change much from week to week. If you are someone who tries to game plan and change stuff a lot week to week I think running both sides would be much more difficult.
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Post by buck42 on Dec 14, 2014 14:43:04 GMT -6
I had to be HC/OC/DC/SC/ strength guy the past two years. It's not ideal, nor is it really fun. However, as the HFC you must do what you feel gives your program the best chance to be successful. Just appointing someone that hasn't earned a leadership role or isn't ready or commited to the details needed to coordinate is more detrimental to the program than the added stress and responsibility you add to yourself. IMO But I am looking for a DC and a strength guy?  |
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Post by jg78 on Dec 14, 2014 15:17:41 GMT -6
If I had to give up playcalling responsibilities for one side of the ball to an assistant who doesn't have any experience with it, it would absolutely be the defense. In my opinion, most defensive coaching is done during the week repping plays, formations, tendencies, etc. And then on game day, there usually isn't a whole lot to playcalling. But our philosophy is to be sound fundamentally, to run just a few schemes and master them, and rep the opponent's offense so much that we play with anticipation. We don't spend a lot of time trying to install or polish a bunch of different fronts, blitzes, a defense of the week, etc. When things go well, we may not run anything but our base defense the whole game. Obviously you can't run the same play every time on offense.
So (hypothetically speaking) if I had to give up playcalling and leave it alone for the entire game, it would be for defense. But I would coach the hell out of the defense during the week and tell the DC under what circumstances to make certain calls.
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Post by viking on Dec 14, 2014 23:07:08 GMT -6
Thanks for the replies guys. This has helped reinforce my feelings. I'll keep trying to turn more over to my defensive staff. I have a lot of confidence in them... the main issue is just time they have to put into it. They are all super busy with other stuff. I knew that when I hired them and did so anyway because they were the best option and still are. They bring a lot to the table as position coaches.
I feel like it is best for the program for me to be the OC at least for a year, but though I've been pretty involved when I was HC at a smaller school, I've never been an OC so I know there will be a learning curve.
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