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Post by coach2013 on Dec 12, 2014 7:10:40 GMT -6
Assistants?
Head Coaches?
I am willing to bet that assistant coaches do much more laughing and joking than the average HC
Part two....how many games did you win?
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Post by Defcord on Dec 12, 2014 7:17:01 GMT -6
I laugh and joke with my players to a certain point. I think a little joke here and there can be a good motivator.
I have been in a few programs. This year our program was 5-5. I have been in programs that have won 10+ games a year and one program that lost 10 games in a year. As a head coach I was only 10-21.
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Post by Defcord on Dec 12, 2014 7:17:28 GMT -6
double post...computer issues this morning.
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Post by football365 on Dec 12, 2014 7:19:51 GMT -6
Regardless of how people respond, I think it's hard to make a blanket statement if laughing and joking is good or bad with kids. Too much of it, and they won't take you seriously, too little of it and some kids won't buy into you at all.... But it depends on the kids you are coaching: inner city poor kids? Middle class kids? Rich kids? I think the different groups have different approaches to coaching.
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Post by coachiminime on Dec 12, 2014 7:20:47 GMT -6
you have to be who you are, if not kids no your faking it.
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Post by utchuckd on Dec 12, 2014 7:26:58 GMT -6
I don't look to make jokes and be the class clown, but if something happens and there's an opportunity I'll try to make a joke.
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Post by football365 on Dec 12, 2014 7:27:48 GMT -6
I also think a coaching staff needs balanced. If everyone on the staff is a hard-ass that never shows a human side, I think that's too much. If everyone on the staff is easy-going joking around type, then that is too much the other way. I think a good coaching staff has a balance. They have the hardass coaches, some they are more chill, and some in between. But that's just my opinion.
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Post by fantom on Dec 12, 2014 7:30:04 GMT -6
Assistants?
Head Coaches?
I am willing to bet that assistant coaches do much more laughing and joking than the average HC
Part two....how many games did you win? Sure. Why not? It's a game. It's supposed to be fun.
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Post by coachfloyd on Dec 12, 2014 7:33:28 GMT -6
i just try to be myself. I like to laugh and cut up. I work when its time to work and when we get in the locker room I try to build relationships.
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Post by CS on Dec 12, 2014 7:46:30 GMT -6
i just try to be myself. I like to laugh and cut up. I work when its time to work and when we get in the locker room I try to build relationships. I agree with this. On the field it's work time and I really don't joke around much (unless something comes up that I can't resist). But, after practice I will joke around with the kids.
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Post by dytmook on Dec 12, 2014 7:58:05 GMT -6
I like to joke with the kids, but there is a time and a place for it. We were 5-5 this week, but we've had pretty much the same staff for the past 4 years and we like to have fun. If we can't have fun, why are we doing this. We have finished 5-5, 6-4, and 9-4 in the years this staff has been in place. Not great, but not terrible. Better than the 3-7 the last guy did who was more serious in his last year.
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Post by blb on Dec 12, 2014 8:00:58 GMT -6
double post...computer issues this morning.
You can delete these - go to your Profile, click on "recent posts."
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Post by emptybackfield on Dec 12, 2014 8:04:28 GMT -6
If you can't laugh and joke in this profession, you won't make it very long.
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Post by nicku on Dec 12, 2014 8:21:53 GMT -6
If I didn't have coaches that could brighten my day with a few jokes back in my playing days, I don't think I would have made it out of high school alive. With that said, those same guys put the fear of God in me to the point where I never acted out in class or out in public because I knew they would be furious.
I am still close to a few of my favorite coaches from high school. Ran into one a few months ago to grab a beer and I don't think I've laughed that hard in my life.
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Post by coachfloyd on Dec 12, 2014 8:23:49 GMT -6
and i dont think laughing is the reason someone isnt successful.
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Post by powerfootball71 on Dec 12, 2014 8:38:02 GMT -6
Yea quite a bit but that's a mix of my personality and the influence of playing at 2 jc ' s and a d2 in 4 years. I was around some real high personality/vulgar/ stright crazy line coachs and is kind of who I am anyway. I'm better then when I first started coaching out of college about what I say. It's something the players sort of earn as they come up in the program so I joke alot more with the older kids then the younger ones.
To me especially playing line the monotony and physicality of it isent really fun as a player so I just feel I can get more by keeping it a little loose. Shure I joke more in 10 win seasons the 3 but if I completely got stright lace serious I don't think we would put out as many all league players in off years or build relationships with the younger kids coming up.
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Post by coachiminime on Dec 12, 2014 8:51:09 GMT -6
I really do not think a coach's using too much humor is the reason they would not have a winning record. All I know as an Oline coach in High School you have to have some humor mixed in or it gets pretty monotonous. The OLine's job is hard physically and mental and I feel those kids appreciate keeping it a little loose .
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Post by IronmanFootball on Dec 12, 2014 9:01:57 GMT -6
We have a lot of re-occurring jokes in our program that get referenced all the time by the kids and coaches. One time an 8th grade WR was going back and forth trying to figure out where to line up and we were just letting him figure it out on his own, and our FS yelled out "MOTION MOTION" and checked the DBs to cover 3 as a joke!
We went 2-8 and it wasn't because I crack on people too much.
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Post by stone65 on Dec 12, 2014 9:08:57 GMT -6
i just try to be myself. I like to laugh and cut up. I work when its time to work and when we get in the locker room I try to build relationships.
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Post by stone65 on Dec 12, 2014 9:09:27 GMT -6
i just try to be myself. I like to laugh and cut up. I work when its time to work and when we get in the locker room I try to build relationships. As a whole our staff does this. We have been very successful. Our kids know we care about them, but also know when it's time to go to work. I think that we've been able to push them harder because of our relationships with the kids.
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Post by larrymoe on Dec 12, 2014 9:21:10 GMT -6
Yes. I'm not a clown, but if things are going well and we're practicing well, I get a little more jokey. The kids notice that and try to practice well because happy coach is way more fun to be around than Bear coach. I don't consciously do it, it's just my personality. When things go well I'm happy and joke. When they don't I don't.
Went 3-6 last year. Went 21-2 the two years prior.
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Post by Defcord on Dec 12, 2014 9:53:46 GMT -6
double post...computer issues this morning.
You can delete these - go to your Profile, click on "recent posts."
Thank you!
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Post by tothehouse on Dec 12, 2014 9:55:19 GMT -6
For the longest time...I did "DB dinners" at my house. What those consisted of was my position players (DBs) would come to my house after practice and eat dinner. My wife would make a simple dinner (spaghetti, salad, bread, etc). Simple rule we had...we didn't talk football. We'd just BS and watch MNF. Players would stay for dinner and leave. Some would stay and do their homework. Some would stay for a long time. It didn't matter.
I found this be extremely important to our relationships. They would see me interact with my wife. They would see me interact with my own kids...as a dad. It made them understand that I would chew their ass, but, in reality, cared for them a lot. A trust was built.
I had to stop doing the DB dinners because my kids got older and I started coaching them...and they had Monday night practice etc. I need to find a way to get back to doing them because I have felt a disconnect from my players since I stopped.
The disconnect is somewhat due to the fact that while I joke a lot with the players they don't see it enough. They don't see that side of me as much as the serious side of getting {censored} done.
I don't think it necessarily produces wins, but I definitely believe players went to bat for us/me more because of their, what I call, "care level". And some of those kids that came to my house are now family friends. In fact, I named my own kids after them.
Build relationships any way you can.
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Post by coachmonkey on Dec 12, 2014 9:56:49 GMT -6
Assistants?
Head Coaches?
I am willing to bet that assistant coaches do much more laughing and joking than the average HC
Part two....how many games did you win? Our HC probably jokes with the kids more than the rest of us. If its who you are then do it. Kids can smell fakeness a mile away. We were 25-1 past two years.
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Post by joelee on Dec 12, 2014 9:59:59 GMT -6
Our staff jokes around with each other all the time, and we joke with the kids some too. Even the HC jokes on kids in film sometimes. Like a couple of people have said you have to be yourself. Our seniors just finished their career 56-2, so I don't think it hurts to have some fun.
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Post by coachgtiller on Dec 12, 2014 10:05:48 GMT -6
As everyone else has said the big thing is being yourself. As long as you have the respect of your players and they when it's business time then it doesn't really matter.
Our OC, who runs the scout O, (I coach DL) talk chit to each other all the time during inside and team periods. The kids get a kick out of this and it usually gets the scout team to play a little harder. Our chit talking carries over all the practice field, that's just the way we are. We usually get the kids involved and they love it. Whatever works for you and your kids. There's not a right or wrong answer. Just remember, "They don't care how much you know til they know how much you care." Sometimes joking around with a kid during pre-practice or an H2O break can let them know you are a human being and you do care about them.
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Post by olinedude on Dec 12, 2014 10:27:22 GMT -6
I coach OLine and I joke around ALL the time. Constantly. Had a kid get busted and go to alternative school for getting it on with his girl at school, so of course anytime we were doing drills working on using our hips I had an absolute gold mine.
I think you have to have a close relationship with your position players to get them to play hard for you, especially with the OL. My way of building that relationship is humor and being real with the guys. Once you have that relationship, you can get those kids to do anything for you.
That being said, you have to be almost bi polar at times to make sure your kids don't try to joke around in practice. Once you have set the tone that joking around is ok and your kids try to make practice time joke time, you HAVE to be able to shut that crap down ASAP and get them to work.
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Post by realdawg on Dec 12, 2014 10:33:30 GMT -6
Yeah. If I like them especially. Like DC said it's who I am. I talk some crap to them at times as well. I try to teach them that there is a time for work and a time to have fun. When it's time to work shut the heck up and let's get it done. If not let's laugh and joke.
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Post by stu on Dec 12, 2014 10:41:49 GMT -6
I joke... not all the time but yes. During water breaks, after practice, etc... if I'm in a classroom and its between classes, etc. During drills? Not that often. Occasionally, but it comes down to the kids too and the situation there. but if I'm working with a guy after practice or something or just walking to the locker room, waiting for a game to start, etc...
then yeah. I'll joke around and talk. you have to be approachable. it can be a fine line but I think you have to be approachable and be human too.
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Post by mariner42 on Dec 12, 2014 10:53:28 GMT -6
Constantly. I am too goofy/weird to play it it straight all the time.
I'm also the staff hard ass (our RB coach: "I've never seen someone be all tough love all the time") and the kids know that when I am getting after them, it's serious business.
16-4 last two years as a DC. Our HC isn't much different from me, just a bit more restrained.
Coach to your personality and find a way to make it work for you.
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