Let me know if you've ever seen something this stupid

Not to pour salt in your wounds, but... You forgot the fact that the volleyball HC has a staff of probably 3, and the golf coach has a staff of himself, and football has a staff of 10, 13, 15? depending on school size...

It sounds like your AD was a golf or tennis coach.

you're upset over the incentive pay or you're upset that other sports are included in it?

I really do appreciate them "trying" but I'm upset for the following reasons:

1) It treats all sports and coaching equally, which it clearly isn't
2) Paying for wins and losses is a very shortsighted, particularly in the playoffs and in a sport where the ball bounces funny ways
3) Our county is way behind in terms of athletic facilities and the overall financial commitment to athletics,  how about taking this money and increasing the overall coaching stipends and/or putting it to use to upgrade facilities?

For the record, my stipend as a coordinator with 10 years of coaching experience is about $2800 and it is taxed as a bonus (damn near 40%).  I make about $1700 coaching football after taxes are taken out.  So, the girls volleyball coach at the school across the county makes in a bonus what I make in an entire year.  Fvcking volleyball.

I have, at the college level where you can actually control the players that you get.

Although I've never heard of bonus pay as an incentive for on field performance, I would definitely not be against it. Also, I don't think it's a stupid idea. Maybe not thought through all that well, but still not a bad gesture.

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I've been too the playoffs in 3 differnt district's in Washington state as a assistant. All the stipends where set up threw what ever the date was at the end of regular season anything past that you where getting a extra check

You're not against only head coaches getting bonuses and a girls volleyball or golf coach being treated the same as a football coach?

You get a weight room stipend?


Rooster

If you want to keep your sanity don't figure your coaching pay by the hour.

Then your issue is really with your playoff system, then, not the money.
This is bonus money, not guaranteed, so any advancement in the playoffs is over-and-above what your base pay is. If your team is lucky enough to advance past the semis, then your coaching staff deserves a reward above regular season performance....whoopie!

So you're against rewarding performing coaching staffs?
or are you just upset with how the bracket is tiered? If the playoff brackets were bracket favorably, would you be for coaches receiving bonuses?

The argument you've presented thus far has been difficult to follow

Or teaching.

so you would be okay with a bonus, if

* Program can divide the salaries among his staff
* not taxed 40%



so what?
How else should coaches receive an ADDITIONAL reward on top of their stipend?

brophy and spos

If you go back and read my original post, you'll notice I said the district is doing this as a way to KEEP coaches. That's why I think it's stupid, not that bonuses are stupid. Yes, it is a bonus. Yes, it is better than nothing. However, my original point was that it's going to possibly run more coaches off than it will keep around.

Let's say you're the HC at a program in the county that has historically struggled. You've got a demographic of kids that gives you low numbers and not a lot of talent. You coach your balls off and get to 8-2 one year, get to the playoffs, and get beat in the 2nd round. This is the best season in school history, but you don't get a dime of bonus money for it because you didn't reach the quarterfinals.

Meanwhile, across the county, golf "coach" Larry Whistledick has 3 country clubbers that are scratch golfers on his team. He doesn't even come up to the school all summer, sees the kids for 2 months out of the year, does no offseason development with them, and his "coaching" is entering scores into a spreadsheet so he can rank the players. His three country clubbers lead his team to a state championship and he walks away with a $2500 check.

If you're that coach I mentioned first, why would this keep your around? It's going to keep some coaches around, but not the ones that were going to leave anyways.

If you want to keep coaches around, use these financial resources bump up all coaching salaries and improve facilities, not some {censored} bonus system that is based on so many variables outside of the head coaches control. This is dumb on so many levels.

I just assumed that everyone could understand why it is a dumb setup for football coaches. I'll try to explain it though.

The bonuses are not always reflective of a job well done, but solely based on an end result in which many variables are out of your control. I think it would be much more appropriate to allocate these funds in other ways to keep coaches content. I do not think this model is going to accomplish the objective of keeping coaches from leaving the district. It also treats other sports equal to football, which they are clearly not in terms of time commitment and how much money they make for the school. These are the reasons why it is dumb. It's basically paying teacher bonuses for high student test scores and treating all classrooms equally. There are many reasons, good reasons, why those have always been shot down.

Hope this helps.