pedroc
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Post by pedroc on Dec 2, 2014 20:17:53 GMT -6
Couple of hypothetical questions for you coaches coming up, would appreciate any feedback.
So I play and coach for an amateur American football team in Ireland. I started coaching after tearing my LCL and hamstring and despite the agony of having to watch football instead of play, really enjoyed coaching from the months of may to now (with a few breaks, sumer vacation school etc). I called plays for the senior team and coached the junior team (14-19) and had a blast, I feel the kids all got better at football fundamentals, learned something resembling a scheme (something the junior team didn't really have when I played junior ball) and enjoyed themselves. They played their first game Sunday past (34-0 win) and while it was a stressful day until we were 3 scores up, I have had few more satisfying days in football than seeing their hard work pay off and enjoy themselves doing it. I think I've caught the coaching 'bug' so to speak.
Being 21 years old I don't know where I'll be living long term (I'm moving to Asia soon for at least 5 months) but I do know I love football and can't think of a better way to spend my spare time, so if I could find work in the USA I'd love to be involved in football in some way.
So my questions, would you as a coach have any reservations about having a European work/volunteer on your staff? And beyond that, do you think nationality could hold someone back from advancing in football? Cheers.
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biggus3
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Post by biggus3 on Dec 3, 2014 0:15:46 GMT -6
I wouldn't be opposed to have to having a European on the staff. As long as the guy has a passion for the game, loves developing young athletes, and doesn't mind working long hours for essentially no pay, I'm all for it. You would probably have to start out as high school coach, and maybe some college program would take you on as a grad assistant if you decided to further your education.
A couple things concern me about your post, however. You mentioned it would something fun to do in your spare time. In America, football is not a hobby especially to coaches. The good ones view it as their job and coaching has it's own lifestyle and culture. It is your professional and friend network. In my eyes I'm a ball coach who happens to teach a couple math classes ( a flipped class is awesome if you're a coach!) to round out the paycheck. If you commit to coaching and want to stay around in the states, be prepared to wake up early, stay late, and then spend some of your "spare time" watching film, going to staff meetings, going to camps and clinics, being in the weight room, pretty much year round. a lot of guys get out of coaching because in their eyes (or their wives or gf's) the work life balance is too hard to maintain. I'm an assistant lb coach and that is my schedule. The head coach has all of that plus meetings with administrators,vendors,has to deal with parents, the media, I can call him night or day, and he is most likely doing something football related. If all that sounds good to you, and you cannot picture yourself doing anything else, I would say hell yeah, move out of your country at 21 to coach ball. Sounds like a great opportunity.
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agame
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Post by agame on Dec 3, 2014 1:37:06 GMT -6
Coach, I think what the op was trying to get at is In Europe, American football is a hobby... We coaches recieve no money... We work full time jobs then coach in the evenings and weekends usually.. It's almost like a 2nd full time job without getting paid..
Just last night I worked till 5 went home saw family for dinner then had a 3 hour film session so didn't get in till well after 10...
So it's classed as a hobby here, doesn't mean we don't take it seriously...
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Post by realdawg on Dec 3, 2014 6:42:53 GMT -6
Many high school coaches in America do the same thing. We teach classes from 8 until 3. Then we coach football after school. Most of us are paid far more for our teaching job than we are for coaching football.
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pedroc
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Post by pedroc on Dec 3, 2014 7:41:07 GMT -6
Just to clarify what I meant by 'spare time' was I'm aware it's unrealistic to think that I could make a living off coaching. I didn't mean to equate coaching football with a hobby or something I wouldn't take seriously or commit to.
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Post by coachphillip on Dec 3, 2014 9:32:31 GMT -6
I'll be honest here. I'm completely ignorant to what the quality of ball is over in Europe. I didn't even think that they would have organized American football there until I joined this board. Like most Americans, I felt like American was the greatest brand of anything there was. After reading the posts of some coaches on this board, I'm reforming my opinion of the sport in other countries. But, it's because I have access to their insights. Some coaches will not have had this exposure to such great coaches from other countries and will think the same way I did. It'll be like any other job, just harder to get your foot in the door. But, once you're in the building, you'll be able to prove your worth.
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Post by RuningOutOfOptions on Dec 13, 2014 2:03:52 GMT -6
I'm a offensive coordinator from Sweden, I can say that the athletes here in Europe are great, we got coaches with amazing knowledge. Our biggest issue, at least in Sweden and the age group I coach (U19) is time, getting coaches and players to the team.
Time: we practice about 2-3 times a week, usually for 2h. If we're lucky and fortunate we have 22 guys to be able to play teams. Usually we don't.
Coaches: last year I coached U17, we were fortunate and practiced with the clubs U19 team so we had enough coaches but we only had me and HC, which meant that last year I coached OL, DL, DB, QB and WR/TE. I and the head coach were passionate and rescheduled our work schedules to be able to be at practices and games.
Players: we face the same issues as american coaches with players balancing school, family and sports. Don't forget girlfriends/boyfriends, which I think every sport is facing issues with. The biggest difference here is that we are the small sport that is "cool" and some players just want to get pics of them in gears and then they don't show up, because soccer is more glamourus (I got no idea how to spell that, sorry), ice hockey is in full off season mode and unfortunatly parties and drinking is something the kids wants to do, our season is from spring to autumn so in the summer that is an issue.
Sorry for the long post.
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