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Post by groundchuck on Jul 29, 2006 21:13:13 GMT -6
Looking for suggestions on what to do with 2 really good WRs. Here is the catch (ha ha get it WRs...catch) most of the time we are in 2TE fullhouse sets. Power I, bone etc. We can split one out and still run fullhouse in the backfield. What about splitting out two WRs with a fullhouse backfield look? Anyone do this?
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Post by tog on Jul 29, 2006 21:22:26 GMT -6
bone open is a great formation, i would assume you could run mostly the same stuff from a T look
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Post by senatorblutarsky on Jul 30, 2006 0:19:42 GMT -6
1998-2002 a 2 SE wishbone was our primary (80%) set. A lot of good things we could do. Generally, if we had a TE, we ran away from him. Option Pass, Boot off of the Power (Iso) was a very good PA pass for us. We still ran the ball 85% of the time, but we saw less 9 and 10 man fronts. If my current school goes back to 11 man (by consolidation) or if I move back to 11 man... that is what I would do (along with double slot), unless I had a stud TE (one who could block like an OT and catch like a WR)..
Carroll College (MT) ran this through the mid 80s (Bob Petrino era... his son is the Louisville HC), with tremendous success (beat us all through college).
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Post by coachjd on Jul 30, 2006 7:32:27 GMT -6
wisc river falls used to run no huddle bone with no TE sets to perfection.
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Post by spreadattack on Jul 30, 2006 8:22:06 GMT -6
I agree with spread bone. Another option for power-I type sets is to run I with 1TE, 1 Split end, and if one of your WRs has a little toughness put him at wing to let him run some cracks and different routes
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Post by los on Jul 30, 2006 10:07:42 GMT -6
Wow, thats a great predicament to be in Chuck! What are your 3 RB's(or 4 if you count the QB) gonna be like this season? We play a flexbone team here that runs dbl. split wr's and aligns the hb's a couple yards behind the OT's, fb a few yards behind the qb, giving them sort of a wide "T" look. Or they would orbit motion one hb to give an offset-I look at the snap. They would also get in the tight bone backfield at times. There fullback was a bigger tougher kid than the 2 speedy halfbacks and they had a good runner/option QB with a decent arm but only a fair recieving corps. This was a good power running team who could do a lot of things from this base formation. Had they the 2 good wide recievers you all have, I'd feel sorry for every opponent they faced, lol! They were good enough to win 2 state titles in their division anyhow but with a better passing game they could have a dynasty going there.
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Post by fbdoc on Jul 30, 2006 13:09:52 GMT -6
Run with what you've got! If those 4 can pound the ball then give them the rock and let them run. You also will probably have a devastating Play Action and Boot series if your run game is going well.
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Post by groundchuck on Jul 30, 2006 15:28:27 GMT -6
Wow, thats a great predicament to be in Chuck! What are your 3 RB's(or 4 if you count the QB) gonna be like this season? We play a flexbone team here that runs dbl. split wr's and aligns the hb's a couple yards behind the OT's, fb a few yards behind the qb, giving them sort of a wide "T" look. Or they would orbit motion one hb to give an offset-I look at the snap. They would also get in the tight bone backfield at times. There fullback was a bigger tougher kid than the 2 speedy halfbacks and they had a good runner/option QB with a decent arm but only a fair recieving corps. This was a good power running team who could do a lot of things from this base formation. Had they the 2 good wide recievers you all have, I'd feel sorry for every opponent they faced, lol! They were good enough to win 2 state titles in their division anyhow but with a better passing game they could have a dynasty going there. Just looking to keep some options open. Our backfield is going to be young and we really only have one stud so we might not be in the bone that much. Just looking for some things to possibly spring on teams late in the season or playoffs. Still running the core plays but with a different twist.
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Post by CoachBrink on Jul 30, 2006 17:23:00 GMT -6
Leo Hand's The Tee Offense:
-It is a Fullhouse with 2 SEs. -Great Offense. -Post already in Playbook Section. -Worth a look.
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Post by tedseay on Jul 31, 2006 4:54:57 GMT -6
Chuck: To reinforce what purple said: "The TEE/Offense for the 21st century" By Leo Hand. Pp. 225. Diagrams. Leo Hand, 5719 Macon Lane, El Paso, TX 79924, paper-bound, $25. lemhand@yahoo.com
Looking for a wide-open offense that combines the wide-open passing game of the present with the powerful and deceptive running game of the past? Try The Tee. The innovation of Al Baldock, who used it with huge success at Taft College (CA), it was adopted by Leo Hand in 1984 and he has been dazzling opposing coaches with it ever since. It is basically a full-house T with widely spread ends, which the author, a high school coach in El Paso, TX, describes with unusual clarity and fullness. He breaks down all its constituents, explains every detail clearly and concisely, and shows (via a million diagrams) how each play works against 12 different defenses! He also shows exactly how to manipulate the defenses with formations, stems, and motion, and how to install the blocking assignments, protect the passer, run all the pass patterns, screens, and draws, and execute the run-action passes. The Tee is an outstanding piece of work, worthy of a serious look by any high school or college coach looking for an explosive offense.
Quote from Leo Hand-
"It's a full house T backfield with 2 split ends. The running game can be whatever you want it to be - Option, Wing T, Power, etc. The possibilities for misdirection are unlimited. The passing game is based on all of the modern concepts. The backfield doesn't have to be made up of all running backs. Tight ends & wide receivers can line up in the backfield & be sent into motion. By flexing the boundary split end & sending the the halfback aligned toward the wide side into motion (toward the wide side) the offense can reduce an 8-man front defense to a 6 man front.
"I learned much of the offense when I was an assistant at Long Beach City College from Al Blaldock (retired coach of Taft College). Al is in the JC hall of fame. While at Taft, he coached the most explosive offenses to ever march down a football field at any level of competition. In some of the Taft games that we were breaking down at LBCC, Taft was gaining 1,000 in a single game.
"I've never achieved the results that Al achieved, but with the TEE my teams were able to win 81% of our games, one state championship, and 3 district championships (6 year period).
"One year we threw for almost 3,000 yards and another year we rushed for over 4,000 yards. "I hope this helps. -- Leo"
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Post by knight7616 on Jul 31, 2006 6:21:57 GMT -6
Where is it in the playbook section? I searched and couldn't find it. Maybe the wrong words?
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Post by tedseay on Jul 31, 2006 10:06:00 GMT -6
Where is it in the playbook section? I searched and couldn't find it. Maybe the wrong words? Coach: It is the fifth or sixth topic from the top of the Playbooks section (NOT the Direct Links to Downloads sub-section)...
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