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Post by groundchuck on Dec 17, 2006 17:55:03 GMT -6
Does it seem like the NBA has more bench clearing brawls than the NFL does? Excluding the brawls by the U of Miami and thier opponent this year, and the Clemson brawl last year (but that is college) when was the last time there was a good ol' knockdown, drag out, cluster &^*% of a brawl in pro football?
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Post by 50Murf on Dec 19, 2006 17:51:12 GMT -6
I think the Bears - Packers had a little bit of a brawl back in the Ditka years. If I'm not mistaken it might have been the game Jim McMahon was slammed to the field by Charles Martin in what was a text book cheap shot.
I can not recall ever see a big ole fight in the NFL...had to been a couple. No??
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Post by pantherpride91 on Dec 20, 2006 9:26:24 GMT -6
I think there is that underlying respect factor there in pro football that the NBA has never and will never see. Players know that if you do something or just something dumb in football you will be paid back and 9 time out of 10 it will not get caught. That is due to the fact of the amount of physical contact that goes on play to play. The NBA is not even fun to watch anymore. It is a one on one game that is more of a dunk contest than anything else.
Also, one thing that really got under my skin was the way Carmello Anthony acted after he puched the guy in the face. I think that that physical violence is 100% wrong but do not run the other way as soon as you do it. In my eyes, that made him more of a punk when he sucker punched the guy fron the Knicks and did a back pedal out of there that some defensive backs would be jealous of. If you are going to pull a punk move like that than you deserve to have your butt beat. I think he should have got much more than 15 games. Ok im off my soap box now
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Post by epcoach99 on Dec 20, 2006 11:53:38 GMT -6
Totally agree pantherpride91. Carmello is a punk, but after he backpedelled like that I lost any respect for him that I had left.
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Post by wingt74 on Dec 20, 2006 12:03:12 GMT -6
I to agree with pantherpride91.
NBA, and basketball in general, tends to attract the biggest thugs. It's a sport where the cost to play is the lowest, so it's popular in the slums. Playing fields (courts) are free and in abundance...and all you need is a ball and at least one other person.
Think baseball, hockey, football...expensive equipment to play, and you need lots of people.
I've always said, WRs in football are just basketball players that can't shoot a jump shot...and Cornerbacks are WRs that can't catch.
Now ask yourself, which positions in football has the most idiots/thugs/etc?
You can take a gangbanger out of the hood...
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Post by jdwatters on Dec 20, 2006 20:08:07 GMT -6
I to agree with pantherpride91. NBA, and basketball in general, tends to attract the biggest thugs. It's a sport where the cost to play is the lowest, so it's popular in the slums. Playing fields (courts) are free and in abundance...and all you need is a ball and at least one other person. Think baseball, hockey, football...expensive equipment to play, and you need lots of people. I've always said, WRs in football are just basketball players that can't shoot a jump shot...and Cornerbacks are WRs that can't catch. Now ask yourself, which positions in football has the most idiots/thugs/etc? You can take a gangbanger out of the hood... I respectfully totally disagree with almost everything said here. All that expensive equipment in hockey doesn't stop teams from carrying players whose main job is to carry out retaliation against opposing players for crosschecking their star one times too many. That expensive equipment doesn't stop Todd Bertuzzi and Marty Mc Sorely from committing acts that nearly warrented prosecution in Canada (Save the Canada jokes  ) I would even argue soccer is a cheaper sport to play than basketball. Cost of a sport doesn't factor into the quality of people playing the sport. People factor into the quality of people, regardless where one is from. I'm sure Michael Jordan, Kareem, Wilt Chamberlain, Dr. J, Magic, Larry, Pistol Pete, Barkley, John Stockton, and so on and so forth all didn't come from the same upscale neighborhoods, just like Lebron, Kobe, Wade, Adam Morrison, KG, Tim Duncan, Shaq, etc. didn't either. The point is there are bad acts in all sports and its unfair to say that just because a sport is more accessible to "the slums" that everytime something happens its because everyone is a thug. Good and bad people alike come from all types of neighborhoods. It is biased and stereotypical to think otherwise. The NBA has some problems right now, definately. But the league being composed of thugs is not why, and it is not the only sport with major blemishes currently. And Lebron James was an All-State receiver in HS, so there is one receiver who can shoot a jump shot. |
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Post by khalfie on Dec 20, 2006 20:17:33 GMT -6
Great response JD...
I don't understand this new underlying resentment with the NBA... and basketball in general, but some of the greatest athletes in the world are on the basketball court!
Any football team would do itself justice by having as many of those athletes on its team as possible!
All this thug blah blah blah... is 3 or 4 players... the lmajority of the kids are hardworking, tough, SOB's... and to simply generalize them as such, speaks more to an inabiilty to recognzie talent and character, than the attempt to besmirch the entire league...
Every year I hear these rants about basketball this... and basketball that... 3 or 4 guys.... talented guys at that... but knuckleheads nonetheless... but not indicative or exemplary of the league.
Very disappointed.
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Post by airman on Dec 20, 2006 22:09:16 GMT -6
maybe fighting should be tolerated in the nba like it is in hockey. I think a lot of it has to do with all the trash talk which is allowed in basketball. the manup mentality which getto ball brings, the fact the nba has young kids who are not that mature playing and basketball has become a inner city game.
miami u is no different. they recruit thugs and look what you get.
all I know is it would be cool to see one of these nba tough guys pick a fight with a little ufc guy. now those guys know how to fight.
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