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Post by fantom on Jun 24, 2014 9:23:52 GMT -6
In the other thread on electronic timers the OP was looking for recommendations. I didn't want to hijack that thread so I'll start a separate thread: Why would a HS program spend $500-$1000+ for a timing device? I don't know it is where you are but money is tight here. Unless you're fortunate enough to be in a program where all of your real needs are covered already this seems like a huge luxury.
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Post by coachfloyd on Jun 24, 2014 9:50:02 GMT -6
for us I wanted an easy way to asssess vertical jump because I feel its the best indicator for my strength program. As a bonus, it also times 40's. Would never spend money on just a timer.
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Post by silkyice on Jun 24, 2014 15:05:44 GMT -6
I just used the just jump to measure all my athletes vertical three times, their 5/10/5 twice, and their 40 three times today. It is awesome and accurate.
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Post by Chris Clement on Jun 24, 2014 18:47:53 GMT -6
While it's definitely something of a toy, it's useful for a lot of different things and you can get precise, accurate measurements very quickly.
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Post by jgordon1 on Jun 24, 2014 18:53:31 GMT -6
One of the reasons to purchase I think is to take "emotion" out of the equation. I have had more "stuff" about 40 times from kids and families ( I am a slow timer) than almost anything else....seriously
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Post by Coach.A on Jun 24, 2014 19:07:09 GMT -6
In my case, it is being purchased with grant money that has been earmarked towards fitness testing equipment. Admittedly I'd probably never buy a laser timer if it wasn't for the grant money.
Same is true for the jump mat, although, now that I have the jump mat I love it. Knowing what I know now about the jump mat, I would recommend it as a valuable investment for any program.
The other advantage of having this precise equipment is that you can run large combine events more efficiently. It could even be a money maker. For example, with the jump mat, we can now test our entire JV and Varsity program in less then 1/8th of the time it took us with a Vertec or the old wall ruler.
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Post by freezeoption on Jun 24, 2014 19:08:32 GMT -6
Then tell them to get electronically timed somewhere else. I hand time, don't have the money now, but I might be able to get it next year or two from the boosters. The only crap that kids ever gave where ever I had been is when the coach told kids they had to be under 5 flat to try to be fullback. My lineman who thought they were quick would always try. I don't tell my kids that, may not have a back make under 5. I tell my kids you will go where you are needed.
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Post by mc140 on Jun 24, 2014 21:39:57 GMT -6
We bought it for track since it was cheaper than an FAT system and we could get accurate times. We have since used it some for football too.
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Post by biggus3 on Jun 24, 2014 21:54:28 GMT -6
I look at it as a cover your butt expense. When little Johnnie's mom comes complaining why her kid didn't play, I can point to objective data saying look, your kids weak, slow, and then pull up hudl and show that her kid doesn't know his @ss from his elbow. That way she can't go around town saying that the coach is a jerk and doesn't like her kid, which is actually the case
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Post by shocktroop34 on Jun 24, 2014 22:05:26 GMT -6
I look at it as a cover your butt expense. When little Johnnie's mom comes complaining why her kid didn't play, I can point to objective data saying look, your kids weak, slow, and then pull up hudl and show that her kid doesn't know his @ss from his elbow. That way she can't go around town saying that the coach is a jerk and doesn't like her kid, which is actually the case I understand your thought process, but objective data could be trumped by subjective reasoning. Little Johnnie could be fast and strong, but still suck. Your timer won't help you there.
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Post by fballcoachg on Jun 26, 2014 14:55:45 GMT -6
I look at it as a cover your butt expense. When little Johnnie's mom comes complaining why her kid didn't play, I can point to objective data saying look, your kids weak, slow, and then pull up hudl and show that her kid doesn't know his @ss from his elbow. That way she can't go around town saying that the coach is a jerk and doesn't like her kid, which is actually the case I understand your thought process, but objective data could be trumped by subjective reasoning. Little Johnnie could be fast and strong, but still suck. Your timer won't help you there. Couldn't you do this with hand timed 40s? If everyone is timed by 2 or 3 coaches and the average is taken everyone is relatively on the same measurement. Is it as accurate as an electronic timer, no, but it is still relative and indicative of where that individual ranks on your team. It seems like an extreme luxury purchase to me as well, personally I think I could find much more to buy. If someone bought it for us we would use it but I don't think it would ever hit our top ten list.
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