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Post by fantom on Jun 15, 2014 17:03:17 GMT -6
This thread- Coaches Conflict- which deals with a conflict between an AHC and DC led me to wonder what an AHC's role is. I've never been on a staff that had an Assistant Head Coach. For those of you that have, what do they do? |
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Post by fballcoachg on Jun 15, 2014 17:22:27 GMT -6
I've seen it two ways and none were really official.
One was he served as the HCs right hand man. If the HC weren't there for some reason he was the guy that took over. Almost like the HCs closest assistant OR the guy who could keep the ship afloat in a moment of need.
The second was strictly a title, no real increase of responsibilities. It could be something given to a guy to keep him around, satisfy a "need" for a title because he isn't a coordinator or it could be to set him up with a shot at an HC job when he starts looking, something to set him apart from other applicants.
In both scenarios I didn't really see much of a difference in responsibility from what that guy had/would do without the name.
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Post by coachd5085 on Jun 15, 2014 17:27:41 GMT -6
fantom I agree with fballcoachg regarding the first example, and have seen it utilized some places..with and without the title being official I would suspect that in other cases, the AHC label may be for paygrade purposes in the district.
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Post by lochness on Jun 15, 2014 17:27:49 GMT -6
I was an "Assistant HC" my last two years before I became an HC. It really doesn't mean anything.
1. Be the best g-damn assistant on the staff. Set an example, work with younger coaches, lead meetings, organize skills sessions, etc.
2. If the HC has to miss a portion of practice due to a school meeting, open house, etc, the AHC runs practice in the HCs absence.
3. If for any reason the HC is unavailable for a game (suspended, family emergency, etc) the AHC acts in his stead.
4. Usually coordinate one phase of the game.
That said, I'd guess that the job description varies from staff to staff. For me, it was really nothing different. It was really just the HC's way of trying to recognize me I think.
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Post by carookie on Jun 15, 2014 17:50:29 GMT -6
I think some people like having more and more titles around their program, I guess it makes it seem more prestigious and big time. We have an AHC, I think its just by default because he is the OC (HC is the DC).
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Post by coachbdud on Jun 15, 2014 18:09:33 GMT -6
I'm currently the assistant HC and have been for my time here
I guess the best way to describe it is "the right hand man"
I'm on campus
HC is off
I am the one who plans things, puts permits in, checks grades, organizes, any paperwork, inventory, fundraising
S&C, making schedule
All the little stuff that goes in to running a program that takes place off the field
If the HC has to leave early or can't make something, I step in
Really as someone stated above I just try to be the best assistant possible
Having the title can't hurt my resume in the future and it allows me to sign off on things here at school during the day so the HC doesn't have to leave work to come to the school to sign something
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Post by rsmith627 on Jun 15, 2014 18:12:03 GMT -6
I serve as the AHC in my new program. For me, it's mostly an on campus coordinator role as our HC is off campus. I handle a lot of the organization and paper work for him, or at least I will once school starts up again.
I'm his right hand man and go to when he needs somebody to count on to get a job done. If the HC can't be around for something, I take over. Those kinds of things.
He is still kind of feeling me out and trying to figure out what other roles will be. With that said, I would never step on another coach's feet as in the other thread.
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Post by wolfden12 on Jun 15, 2014 19:51:24 GMT -6
I think it depends on the place. It can be just a title as mentioned above, however it can also set rank to help the HC manage larger staffs and responsibilities. I think it was stated best as he is the HC's right hand man. The guy he goes to to handle the logistical struff, paperwork, organization, staff communication, etc. I also think it allows the AHC a way to get involved in several things involving the program if he has aspirations of being a HC that a normal position coach would not.
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Post by lochness on Jun 15, 2014 20:01:14 GMT -6
The big question is: "are you the Assistant Head Coach or the Assistant TO the Head Coach?"  |
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Post by wolfden12 on Jun 15, 2014 20:19:58 GMT -6
Lochness,
well put on both above.
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Post by fantom on Jun 15, 2014 21:00:57 GMT -6
In general, would the AHC actually outrank the rest of the staff? Is it usually like the HC is a general, the AHC is a colonel, and the other coaches are junior officers?
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Post by carookie on Jun 15, 2014 21:46:03 GMT -6
The big question is: "are you the Assistant Head Coach or the Assistant TO the Head Coach?" Thats funny, I'm not the Assistant Head Coach, but definitely the Assistant TO the Head Coach. We are the only two campus guys, and the only two who are here most everyday in the summer, I kinda end up fielding all the questions and taking care of all the small stuff when he is gone. On a side note he made me the ADC (Assistant Defensive Coordinator) this past spring. |
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Post by realdawg on Jun 16, 2014 3:12:13 GMT -6
Assist the HC, just like every other assistant. Was on a staff with an AHC and it was just a title. He didnt have any more power or jobs or whatever than anyone else. I guess he would have called the O if something happened to the HC but that never came about.
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Post by smfreeman on Jun 16, 2014 4:16:17 GMT -6
I've seen it two ways and none were really official. One was he served as the HCs right hand man. If the HC weren't there for some reason he was the guy that took over. Almost like the HCs closest assistant OR the guy who could keep the ship afloat in a moment of need. The second was strictly a title, no real increase of responsibilities. It could be something given to a guy to keep him around, satisfy a "need" for a title because he isn't a coordinator or it could be to set him up with a shot at an HC job when he starts looking, something to set him apart from other applicants. In both scenarios I didn't really see much of a difference in responsibility from what that guy had/would do without the name. I have Assistant HC the is my right hand man like stated in above threads but here is how it works for me. My AHC is allowed to discipline kids, he can make quick important decisions if I am not available, and if I ever had an emergency or get suspended he would be the head coach and by naming him Assistant HC the administration in the school would have to name him acting HC. He doesn't make decisions when it comes to other coaches. He is also the Head basketball coach so he understands all the HC stuff that others don't get. |
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Post by shocktroop34 on Jun 16, 2014 5:21:22 GMT -6
In theory, the main thing that I need that person to do is to make sure that I don't lose.
Game day decisions in regard to strategy, insight, etc. is what I expect that person to be good at. If I know to win, he is to help make sure that I don't lose the game based on a poor coaching decision.
If he can't help in that area, then I don't need someone with that title.
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Post by coach2013 on Jun 16, 2014 5:55:29 GMT -6
This stuff drives me crazy.
A good header is going to communicate expectations and roles/responsibilities- the good assistant accepts that and does what is expected and more to help the program be a success.
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Post by wingtol on Jun 16, 2014 10:01:23 GMT -6
I kind of gave myself the title of assistant head coach in our program LOL The HC and I have been best friends since we were 4 so he didn't care. Basically I am the right hand man if the HC isn't there I am in charge kind of thing. I also kind of added it to my title just to make it sound a bit more official since I do all the recruiting, film exchanges, publicity type stuff (getting info to media and online sites), ordering stuff, etc so I just kind of thought the title would give me a bit more juice!  We also have a great staff where everyone knows their roles and have no problems with the power structure, we are all pretty close friends and have been working together for over a decade as a staff with little turn over. So assistant head coach doesn't offend anyone or create a power struggle within the staff. |
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Post by fantom on Jun 16, 2014 12:36:01 GMT -6
A few years ago our staff visited a college that had just given a bunch of guys titles like Associate Head Coach. We were on very friendly terms with them so we felt comfortable enough to, when we met new people there, introduce ourselves by our made-up titles. I was Deputy Head Coach.
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Post by coachd5085 on Jun 16, 2014 12:45:23 GMT -6
A few years ago our staff visited a college that had just given a bunch of guys titles like Associate Head Coach. We were on very friendly terms with them so we felt comfortable enough to, when we met new people there, introduce ourselves by our made-up titles. I was Deputy Head Coach. like i mentioned above...those type of titles are probably due to payscale situations. |
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Post by fantom on Jun 16, 2014 12:49:20 GMT -6
A few years ago our staff visited a college that had just given a bunch of guys titles like Associate Head Coach. We were on very friendly terms with them so we felt comfortable enough to, when we met new people there, introduce ourselves by our made-up titles. I was Deputy Head Coach. like i mentioned above...those type of titles are probably due to payscale situations. I know that and knew it then. It was just ball busting. |
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Post by coachwoodall on Jun 16, 2014 20:20:38 GMT -6
I was AHC once, that title was given strictly because I was an on staff guy who applied for the HC job and didn't get it, so the new HC gave me the title to try and placate me and keep me aboard. I was going to stay for a year any way regardless. I worked to be a liaison for the kids because I knew them well and the new guy was trying to fit in. I took the assume responsibilities and ran with it as needed.
I used the hades out of that title when I applied for jobs later.
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