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Post by pirate1590 on Jun 5, 2014 13:46:12 GMT -6
I was bored this weekend and rewatched film of a team I scouted that played after us-(filming for S1s team) at the 12-14 level to see what types of schemes, blocking rules etc they ran. The team I was filming was playing a team that ran a blitz I had never seen before at that level of football. They would alternate between a 6-2 and a 4-4 and would send their two inside linebackers- DTs were lined up outside shoulder in G-T gaps- Es played outside T shoulder, right over the center-twice twisting the LBs. This was virtually unblockable- they ran that blitz 8 times-stunting the LBs twice.
Twice the line picked it up and they ran the play as normal-picked up 20 on a well called trap-which they immediately backed out of that for a few drives. They caused 4 fumbled exchanges, sacked the QB twice and caused a fumble on one. This team recovered 3 of the 5 fumbles-and no surprise won handily largely due to that blitz. We have seen teams try to mess with the C- walking LBs up before and the like. We teach our line to make a down call in which we all block down-end man kicks, in extreme circumstances. Usually a trap or wedge will kill them- our a jet play out of shotgun. But needless to say we are putting that blitz in, and I am curious how you guys would try to teach your kids to pick that one up at 5/6/7th grade level. Especially in the run game-with pulling etc.
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Post by coachphillip on Jun 5, 2014 14:01:44 GMT -6
Auto check to wedge.
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Post by 33coach on Jun 5, 2014 14:13:49 GMT -6
all you can do is drill the crap out of it. teaching blocks while keeping there eyes on the 2nd level. there are several ways of doing it.
my favorite for indie period is this: Have a coach in a linebacker position with playing cards. have your OL block a DL on a specific play, in the middle the coach will flash a playing card. the OL will call out the card as soon as he sees it WHILE maintaining his block.
this trains the eyes. now replace the coach with a (sometimes) blitzing linebacker and get the OL footwork right.
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Post by bobgoodman on Jun 5, 2014 14:24:45 GMT -6
I was bored this weekend and rewatched film of a team I scouted that played after us-(filming for S1s team) at the 12-14 level to see what types of schemes, blocking rules etc they ran. The team I was filming was playing a team that ran a blitz I had never seen before at that level of football. They would alternate between a 6-2 and a 4-4 and would send their two inside linebackers- DTs were lined up outside shoulder in G-T gaps- Es played outside T shoulder, right over the center Is that supposed to be a rarity? The JPWs I coached with in 2007 did that; I forgot what we called it, but it seemed simple enough, and that's with a younger age group. The teams I've coached on never coached the OL to do anything against a delayed blitz. If they walked up, then they were DL and handled according to line blocking rules. In pass protection, backs staying in the backfield would pick up blitzers. Otherwise our thinking has been to allow the defense to guess, and much of the time when they blitzed they'd be guessing wrong. And that's fine with me. The only ways to try to adjust to a delayed blitz would have my blockers too mentally occupied for the levels I coach at. Not interested in "4 eyes on the opponents" thinking. I might fantasize that OL whose rule would have them on a LB or S to begin with could pick him up if he blitzed, but unless that opponent was remarkably slow or coming from exceptionall far back, the angle the blocker would have to meet him at would have the blocker caught in the wash. I'll accept that the right kind of blitz called at the right time will blow up the play, but the offense should have tools to punish the defense if they guess wrong, and try to avoid any tells that would be vulnerable to auto-blitzing.
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Post by pirate1590 on Jun 5, 2014 20:47:59 GMT -6
Actually yes- it was. We usually see 1 LB over center rushing- or 1 over center and 1 over G. We have run up against that countless times. I have never coached a team that saw 2 LBs directly head up on the Center, if we did though, we wouldn't pull and we would just block everybody down and kick out with the FB at POA, with the center crabbing after he gets the ball off. The thing is- it kind of messes up our trap plays and plays with pulling. We do not pull if we have a defender head up on the pulling guard. Especially going UC it is so pivotal that you don't get heat from the defensive line. Just a thought, we will definitely work on defending it this year. The front that gave us the most trouble has actually been a 6-2 with Ts and NGs head up on the Gcs and Ts. It is wedge city but it is very hard to run in between the tackles.
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Post by rambler on Jun 7, 2014 19:50:23 GMT -6
I was bored this weekend and rewatched film of a team I scouted that played after us-(filming for S1s team) at the 12-14 level to see what types of schemes, blocking rules etc they ran. The team I was filming was playing a team that ran a blitz I had never seen before at that level of football. They would alternate between a 6-2 and a 4-4 and would send their two inside linebackers- DTs were lined up outside shoulder in G-T gaps- Es played outside T shoulder, right over the center-twice twisting the LBs. This was virtually unblockable- they ran that blitz 8 times-stunting the LBs twice.
Twice the line picked it up and they ran the play as normal-picked up 20 on a well called trap-which they immediately backed out of that for a few drives. They caused 4 fumbled exchanges, sacked the QB twice and caused a fumble on one. This team recovered 3 of the 5 fumbles-and no surprise won handily largely due to that blitz. We have seen teams try to mess with the C- walking LBs up before and the like. We teach our line to make a down call in which we all block down-end man kicks, in extreme circumstances. Usually a trap or wedge will kill them- our a jet play out of shotgun. But needless to say we are putting that blitz in, and I am curious how you guys would try to teach your kids to pick that one up at 5/6/7th grade level. Especially in the run game-with pulling etc. You can cut your splits down if they are running through A gap, 6 inch or foot to foot can give them problems. Some ways we would mess with this would be to unbalance or add a linemen to the formation. They are trying to outnumber you up front so you can either change the numbers (unbalance) and see if they adjust or add numbers and look for the hole. vs. unbalanced - they should adjust to the line and thus move the backers over your guard which may help the snap. If they don't adjust they give you a numbers advantage to the overloaded side. if both ILB are going A gap you might want to look at overloading a side (by unbalanced or extra lineman)and running toss sweep.
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Post by jrk5150 on Jun 17, 2014 20:46:07 GMT -6
This is the primary reason I use TKO blocking (DW and tight splits) - no space for backers to blitz. And if they try, sweep is so wide open it's not funny.
I tried rules/double teams, spent two full practices trying to teach our kids (9-11 years old) to keep an eye on the LB's as they blocked the DL, and come off if he stepped up. And I made no progress whatsoever. I mean none. 4 solid hours of doing nothing but double teaming and coming off onto a blitzing backer, and their last rep was no better than their first. I went back to TKO.
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