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Post by s73 on May 26, 2014 14:26:33 GMT -6
Wondering how long you practice and during that time how much time do any of you dedicate to team O and team D ?
Trying to decide if I want to spend more time in group rather than team.
Thanks.
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Post by coachbdud on May 26, 2014 14:51:17 GMT -6
Through spring ball very little, actually the least amount I ever have in 9 years of coaching
As camp approaches team time will go up a little but that's more for to in purposes than anything else
Then we will refocus on Indy and small groups
In season we will spend a little more time in team
I just think team is overrated
You don't improve in team, you improve in Indy and small groups... In education terms Indy time is your lesson planning homework and studying... Team time is like a midterm review and finally the game is the final exam
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Post by jcamerot on May 26, 2014 14:53:50 GMT -6
We are a full platoon team. We will do an inside run session for both offense & defense (10-12 plays for each). A 7 on 7 session for both sides of the ball (approx. 10 plays each). A team session of at most 20 plays for each side of the ball. Our 'indy' period is usually 45-60 mins during which time we will do specific individual position drills but also use part of that time to 'group' positions (ie, LB'ers with secondary for coverage or LB'ers with D-Line for blitz work, etc).
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Post by carookie on May 26, 2014 20:46:03 GMT -6
If you do more than 30 minutes of full pad team a week (ie not counting Thursdays, or half pad days) then I think you are being inefficient. EVERYTHING (not just technique but responsibility) should be taught during indy; so make sure you give your coaches enough time to do it.
Usually what I see in team time is 11 guys working their craft for about 5 second, 11 others repping what the other team does for 5 seconds, and everyone else standing around. Then, after each play some coach has a problem with what happened so he'll get on one player's case for a minute while everyone else stands around.
Indy time should be 2x team. If we are what repeatedly do, dont have kids who repeatedly stand around.
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Post by realdawg on May 27, 2014 5:36:45 GMT -6
Hate doing more than 15 minutes of team ever. Kids start to lose focus and you get to the point of negative returns. If you do indy, have a good 10-15 min of inside run and another good 10-15 min of 7 on 7, how much team time do you really need? The only things you havent covered are outside runs and trick play type stuff. Maybe a few formation adjustments defensively. The key is to be efficient at what you do. This requires a good scout team coordinator for all of practice-inside, 7 on 7, and team. If you are in a situation where you have to coach and run the scout team-well that can be a big headache.
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Post by coachorm on May 27, 2014 7:14:48 GMT -6
We are a small school usually with an average of 30 players on the team. One thing we have started doing more of is Half-line drills. Instead of the full Team of #1's vs Backups we get Half our #1's vs the Best of the Rest which usually includes several starters and your solid contributors. This has been a big thing for us especially since it puts our starting teams in a difficult situation and against more competitive talent. Practice usually last 2 hours maybe less. Team time now last about 15 minutes and is more coaching formation adjustments and reads rather than trying to run as many plays as we can. One of the main things I like to do offensively with my team period is try to get the offense in a good flow before we stop. I don't just mean scoring against the scout. I mean every piston firing and looking like a well oiled machine. Since team is usually the last period of practice I want it to end on a high note that hopefully carries over into Friday night. Defensively we use team period to try and put our defense in the worst possible situation vs the opponents best plays.
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Post by blb on May 27, 2014 7:28:49 GMT -6
One conundrum is young players need to be taught how to play the game (Individual and Group) and they need more experience actually playing (Team).
We might do more Team than others. I don't like Inside or Half line drills regularly because you don't get patterns of downfield blocking and pursuit, plus everyone knows where POA is which is not realistic. Same thing if you only run outside and Gadget plays in Team.
In Team we can practice field position (horizontally and laterally) and game situations that we can't get in group drills.
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Post by Wingtman on May 27, 2014 11:41:30 GMT -6
Something Im going to do this year (That I did at a previous stop) is TEAM TEACHING TIME.
Bring the entire offense together and show them whats going on big picture. 10 minutes. Then rep whatever we just walked through. Total of about 15-20 minutes.
The "live" look we get isn't very good, so I want to try and 10-15 good plays a day full speed and move on.
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Post by 10dencyofdeception on May 27, 2014 14:18:33 GMT -6
I remember over a two year stretch not running much team at all. When we did, we got the chains out and did situations only. Backed up, midfield, going in, play clock, 4 min. remaining, 1 timeout left and so forth. Coaches and players really got into it.
We had deep runs both those years, then the HC left for greener pastures...
Now our team sessions seem lacking, comparatively speaking.
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