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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2014 17:42:04 GMT -6
I'm currently going through the strangest political situation within a program that I've dealt with in my still fairly young career. I'll spare the details, but I will say it looks like this may be the straw that finally breaks the camel's back regarding my future with this school.
This has me curious, though... what are the most bizarre/unheard of situations you've found yourself in as a coach due to educational or community politics? No names need to be mentioned, but I'm wondering just how weird it gets.
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Post by CS on May 15, 2014 6:26:09 GMT -6
Man, I'm not going to go in to the bullchit I have had to deal with this year but it would make you sick. From what I have gathered this past year is that it all trickles down.
I don't believe that you have to be able to play the political game to get ahead. I may be an optimist that way but I can't bring myself to get involved. However, I feel that most people don't want to either and it's only when administration lets a politician spin his yarn that it starts to get bad.
I have been at this school for 3 years and this is the first year it has been this bad and it makes me sad for the direction it's heading in. I fortunately won't have to see it though
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Post by fantom on May 15, 2014 9:11:35 GMT -6
I know of a very successful coach who was "retired" by the school board. The ringleader was a board member who had been a coach on the staff who had been fired with cause. It's a small town. Everybody knew why the guy was out to get the coach and why he'd been fired but they went along with it.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2014 9:24:49 GMT -6
Mine may not be "political" but it definitely fits the weird part. Several school years ago when I was still subbing, I was hired by the school I was coaching for as a classroom aide/associate right before the year started. The principal flat-out told me in the interview for that position the reason he was bringing me on-board was because he had two English teachers retiring "shortly" and that was my area of certification and he also wanted to help the football program at the same time. Then, when time came later in the school year to interview for one of the English spots, I was told the interview was a "formality" and then also told I "nailed it" when it was over. The, of course, the job offer went to someone else...
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Post by larrymoe on May 15, 2014 10:59:00 GMT -6
My school board president is a volunteer assistant of mine. Has been here for 28 years. This is my 5th. That's kind of weird.
What was really weird was when he got kicked out of our quarterfinal game. That made for some odd political times for me.
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Post by newhope on May 15, 2014 11:06:07 GMT -6
As I told a former principal many years ago: If you want a football coach hire me, if you want a politician hire the other guy.
I'm going to try to avoid the land mines that are out there (if I know where they are) and I'm going to keep my distance from the snakes in the grass (if I know where they are). I'll be friendly to people, I'll shake the right hands, but I'm not into hiney kissing or playing games. When I was younger, and not as adept at picking up where the land mines and snakes were, I got burned. I'm a bit smarter now.
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Post by billyclydepuckett on May 16, 2014 10:12:32 GMT -6
My school board president is a volunteer assistant of mine. Has been here for 28 years. This is my 5th. That's kind of weird. What was really weird was when he got kicked out of our quarterfinal game. That made for some odd political times for me. I am SO glad that here in Texas you must be a full time school employee before you can Coach. I have heard many many horror stories about volunteer coaches. I tip my hat to you. That sounds like a very tough position to be in.
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Post by tango on May 17, 2014 6:41:09 GMT -6
MS football coach, varsity track, and varsity girls coach was the principals husband. He was also my high school head varsity football coach. The boys basketball and girls track coach was the superintendent son. Then the superintendent ex wife ran and became the superintendent. It made you really watch what you say but all good people and no real problems. I am also the AD.
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Post by coach2013 on May 17, 2014 6:43:27 GMT -6
I'm currently going through the strangest political situation within a program that I've dealt with in my still fairly young career. I'll spare the details, but I will say it looks like this may be the straw that finally breaks the camel's back regarding my future with this school. This has me curious, though... what are the most bizarre/unheard of situations you've found yourself in as a coach due to educational or community politics? No names need to be mentioned, but I'm wondering just how weird it gets. principal firing me to bring in his "partner" to be the coach.
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Post by s73 on May 17, 2014 7:27:03 GMT -6
Don't know about political but this sure is WEIRD. Many years ago as assistant we had a dad who didn't like the way we were "utilizing" his son in the program (but we were winning at the time so, not much he could do). But he was the quiet snake type. Always pleasant to your face but running his hole behind your back. You know the kind I'm talking about.
Alright, here it is, TWILIGHT ZONE TIME. The dude wrote a "fictitious novel" based on his boys HS experiences. The boys name was altered slightly as was mine and the rest of the staffs but we were all in the book. He wrote the book as if his son was a fictitious character but he addressed several concerns "his son's character" had about the direction the program was going. And the fictitious character knew that "if the coaching staff could just get out of the way" that the "hero of the story" could take the program to the next level.
The character also battled through several difficult obstacles he had to "deal with" through out practices. Mostly "over bearing coaches" who wouldn't allow him to "spread wings" and "take over. After all, what were they afraid of? Being exposed that it's the players and not the coaches who are the true heroes in this program".
Everyone on staff received a copy in our faculty mail boxes. It was almost 200 pages long. This story is completely true.
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Post by CS on May 17, 2014 8:08:22 GMT -6
Don't know about political but this sure is WEIRD. Many years ago as assistant we had a dad who didn't like the way we were "utilizing" his son in the program (but we were winning at the time so, not much he could do). But he was the quiet snake type. Always pleasant to your face but running his hole behind your back. You know the kind I'm talking about. Alright, here it is, TWILIGHT ZONE TIME. The dude wrote a "fictitious novel" based on his boys HS experiences. The boys name was altered slightly as was mine and the rest of the staffs but we were all in the book. He wrote the book as if his son was a fictitious character but he addressed several concerns "his son's character" had about the direction the program was going. And the fictitious character knew that "if the coaching staff could just get out of the way" that the "hero of the story" could take the program to the next level. The character also battled through several difficult obstacles he had to "deal with" through out practices. Mostly "over bearing coaches" who wouldn't allow him to "spread wings" and "take over. After all, what were they afraid of? Being exposed that it's the players and not the coaches who are the true heroes in this program". Everyone on staff received a copy in our faculty mail boxes. It was almost 200 pages long. This story is completely true. Is it available for purchase? That chit is hilarious!! I believe that story cannot be topped(granted it got published)
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Post by s73 on May 17, 2014 8:16:12 GMT -6
Don't know about political but this sure is WEIRD. Many years ago as assistant we had a dad who didn't like the way we were "utilizing" his son in the program (but we were winning at the time so, not much he could do). But he was the quiet snake type. Always pleasant to your face but running his hole behind your back. You know the kind I'm talking about. Alright, here it is, TWILIGHT ZONE TIME. The dude wrote a "fictitious novel" based on his boys HS experiences. The boys name was altered slightly as was mine and the rest of the staffs but we were all in the book. He wrote the book as if his son was a fictitious character but he addressed several concerns "his son's character" had about the direction the program was going. And the fictitious character knew that "if the coaching staff could just get out of the way" that the "hero of the story" could take the program to the next level. The character also battled through several difficult obstacles he had to "deal with" through out practices. Mostly "over bearing coaches" who wouldn't allow him to "spread wings" and "take over. After all, what were they afraid of? Being exposed that it's the players and not the coaches who are the true heroes in this program". Everyone on staff received a copy in our faculty mail boxes. It was almost 200 pages long. This story is completely true. Is it available for purchase? That chit is hilarious!! I believe that story cannot be topped(granted it got published) "Shockingly" it did not go to print. I'm sure the poor spelling and grammatical errors didn't help:)
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Post by larrymoe on May 17, 2014 9:49:39 GMT -6
My school board president is a volunteer assistant of mine. Has been here for 28 years. This is my 5th. That's kind of weird. What was really weird was when he got kicked out of our quarterfinal game. That made for some odd political times for me. I am SO glad that here in Texas you must be a full time school employee before you can Coach. I have heard many many horror stories about volunteer coaches. I tip my hat to you. That sounds like a very tough position to be in. He's a good guy, but I think last fall he was going through some personal stuff and it led to some really irrational behavior at times. This event was in the closing minutes of our quarterfinal loss and i think he just momentarily lost it. It was almost like he had an out of body experience. He is extremely embarrassed and it has been a lone black eye on what has been a hall of fame caliber career. It was just a really weird set of circumstances to sort of be determining the pres of the board's coaching future afterward.
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Post by larrymoe on May 17, 2014 9:52:14 GMT -6
Don't know about political but this sure is WEIRD. Many years ago as assistant we had a dad who didn't like the way I were "utilizing" his son in the program (but we were winning at the time so, not much he could do). But he was the quiet snake type. Always pleasant to your face but running his hole behind your back. You know the kind I'm talking about. Alright, here it is, TWILIGHT ZONE TIME. The dude wrote a "fictitious novel" based on his boys HS experiences. The boys name was altered slightly as was mine and the rest of the staffs but we were all in the book. He wrote the book as if his son was a fictitious character but he addressed several concerns "his son's character" had about the direction the program was going. And the fictitious character knew that "if the coaching staff could just get out of the way" that the "hero of the story" could take the program to the next level. The character also battled through several difficult obstacles he had to "deal with" through out practices. Mostly "over bearing coaches" who wouldn't allow him to "spread wings" and "take over. After all, what were they afraid of? Being exposed that it's the players and not the coaches who are the true heroes in this program". Everyone on staff received a copy in our faculty mail boxes. It was almost 200 pages long. This story is completely true. Worked with a guy just like this, minus the book. The BS thing was everytime he'd go to complain be'd throw my name I like I was with him. I think that ended up being the reason I was passed over for the HC job when the other guy quit.
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Post by CS on May 17, 2014 15:06:35 GMT -6
Is it available for purchase? That chit is hilarious!! I believe that story cannot be topped(granted it got published) "Shockingly" it did not go to print. I'm sure the poor spelling and grammatical errors didn't help:) Even though it didn't that is funny. From this day forward I can say "At least they're not writing a book about it!" You have to admire the really crazy ones
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Post by coachphillip on May 18, 2014 8:20:11 GMT -6
Buddy of mine had a blast with this one. He was the OC at his program. HC was told during the season he wasn't going to be retained the following season. HC was told that the OC would be the HC the following season. This was week five. There was tension all year. They went on a five game losing streak and ended up 4-6 and missing the playoffs. Worst part? My buddy never knew what was going on. The principal wanted to bring in his own guy and cause tension. OC had never even known the HC wasn't being retained. At the end of the year meeting, the HC told him he was a snake for taking his job. OC didn't even know what he was talking about. New HC was announced the next day. Boy, now THAT is some political BS.
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Post by larrymoe on May 18, 2014 9:36:41 GMT -6
principal firing me to bring in his "partner" to be the coach. You mean like romantic partner?
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Post by coach2013 on May 18, 2014 11:26:15 GMT -6
principal firing me to bring in his "partner" to be the coach. You mean like romantic partner? something like that.
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Post by billyclydepuckett on May 19, 2014 7:20:52 GMT -6
You mean like romantic partner? something like that. not that there is anything worn with that.....lol
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Post by casec11 on May 19, 2014 9:40:43 GMT -6
My school board president is a volunteer assistant of mine. Has been here for 28 years. This is my 5th. That's kind of weird. What was really weird was when he got kicked out of our quarterfinal game. That made for some odd political times for me. I am SO glad that here in Texas you must be a full time school employee before you can Coach. I have heard many many horror stories about volunteer coaches. I tip my hat to you. That sounds like a very tough position to be in. you have probably heard a ton of horror stories about teacher coaches too. Many non teacher coaches are there for the right reasons and actually give up / lose money opportunities to do something they care about.
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Post by billyclydepuckett on May 19, 2014 10:08:59 GMT -6
oh no doubt about it. IMHO Education has a much higher % of full blown idiots than any other profession. A college degree is proof of nothing. I just think that there is liess likelihood of a chance of silliness occurring if the Coach is a full time employee of the district.
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Post by fantom on May 19, 2014 12:13:20 GMT -6
You mean like romantic partner? something like that. Speaking of which we had a situation at a school around here where the male coach of the girls' basketball team missed several games to go on a romantic getaway with the male principal.
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Post by freezeoption on May 19, 2014 12:16:34 GMT -6
I guess you have to have your priorities.
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