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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2014 11:22:13 GMT -6
For those that constantly talk about winning how do you justify it when you don't? I get what you are saying about a mindset but say you are in an average to bad job/rebuild how do they respond when you don't reach the goal? I'm a big fan of working to win or doing your best every/improving every drill/day/game. This is a good question. When I came to my current school as OC last year, we were 5-45 the last 5 years. Last year, our numbers were much better than they had been and we had a cupcake schedule, so a lot of people, including coaches, were talking about us winning 5-8 games. We began the season with all kinds of confidence, but when we started out 0-4, it derailed everything. A lot of kids quit, started missing practice on a weekly basis, etc. The community said we were just the same old team we had been and stopped showing up at our games (our stands were almost empty for our last 3 home games, including senior night). When we finally won a game against what was probably the worst team in the entire state, it only made things worse. We finished 1-9 again. Now the cycle is repeating. We do look a lot better and players talk about how many games we'll win. I just say we have the talent to win them all, but we have to practice better, lift better, stay focused, and play harder for that to matter.
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Post by coachcb on May 11, 2014 11:59:26 GMT -6
I discuss "winning" once at the beginning of each season. It's how I introduce and explain our definition of "the process". Here's the gist of the spiel we give the kids:
"You won't hear the coaches talk about winning much during a season, fellas. We keep score for a reason; we're playing to win and that's the bottom line. But, we need to be focused on the steps we need to take to win more than winning itself. The steps we need to take to win is called the 'process' and you'll hear us talk about it constantly. The steps it takes to win are more important than winning itself. Understanding the process and the steps it takes to win is what leads to winning consistently and beating good teams. When taking off on a road trip, we don't need to discuss the destination, we need to figure our how to get there".
This approach helps the kids focus on the little things each day; working hard, winning the individual battles and just getting better. I find that talking about winning too much detracts from that; they're concerned about the next Friday night when they need to be worried about Monday afternoon.
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Post by coachd5085 on May 11, 2014 12:02:31 GMT -6
For those that constantly talk about winning how do you justify it when you don't? I get what you are saying about a mindset but say you are in an average to bad job/rebuild how do they respond when you don't reach the goal? I'm a big fan of working to win or doing your best every/improving every drill/day/game. This is a good question. When I came to my current school as OC last year, we were 5-45 the last 5 years. Last year, our numbers were much better than they had been and we had a cupcake schedule, so a lot of people, including coaches, were talking about us winning 5-8 games. We began the season with all kinds of confidence, but when we started out 0-4, it derailed everything. A lot of kids quit, started missing practice on a weekly basis, etc. The community said we were just the same old team we had been and stopped showing up at our games (our stands were almost empty for our last 3 home games, including senior night). When we finally won a game against what was probably the worst team in the entire state, it only made things worse. We finished 1-9 again. Now the cycle is repeating. We do look a lot better and players talk about how many games we'll win. I just say we have the talent to win them all, but we have to practice better, lift better, stay focused, and play harder for that to matter. I am a process guy. A "score will take care of itself" guy. That said, I think there are different discussions and talking points for different teams/programs that are in various stages of development. My playing experience was what was described above. Having a coach talk about "10-0 starts today boys"...then "lets go.. 9-1 here we come" then "8-2 is a hell of a record..." Just pretty lame. Teams that aren't ready to win games, shouldn't talk about winning games. As someone mentioned previously, wining games is just too large a concept. They need to just worry about doing the processes that will get them there. The smaller the better. Blocking that guy...that may be too big. But.. Quick first two steps, low pad level, hit and drive... hey, I can do that.
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