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Post by 42falcon on Mar 27, 2014 17:44:22 GMT -6
Hey guys we have 2 teams a JR team of grade 10's (aprox. 45-50) & a SR team of the best kids G10-12 (aprox 45-50).
JR games -tues / wen
SR games - thurs / fri
Does anyone have any ideas how we could logistically practice together with these #'s.
I'm thinking same systems skills etc
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Post by Chris Clement on Mar 27, 2014 18:48:26 GMT -6
Biggest problem is the massive disparity in physical maturity and understanding of the game. It helps if your older players are more responsible and look out for the younger ones, takes off the load of babysitting. Still it's hard to teach the nuances of the pull and wrap when you still need to get one kid into a stance. You might have them practicing together on paper, but they have vastly different needs. This is where I've found it useful to have coaches who don't necessarily have a ton of knowledge but they can run a drill competently and correct a few basic things so you can work with the other half of the group.
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Post by 42falcon on Mar 27, 2014 19:16:29 GMT -6
Makes sense. Right now we get about 50% of our JR team that's played for 2-5 years before getting to us. So that's a smaller issue than when we first started.,
Chris do you think the numbers are even plausible?
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Post by Underdeveloped on Mar 27, 2014 19:26:24 GMT -6
I've contemplated doing this for beginning of practice during Indy. For the purpose of getting those kids involved with our high school coaches. Think it could be a nice helper for recruiting purposes if we are on the same page.
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Post by Chris Clement on Mar 27, 2014 21:33:59 GMT -6
Makes sense. Right now we get about 50% of our JR team that's played for 2-5 years before getting to us. So that's a smaller issue than when we first started., Chris do you think the numbers are even plausible? How big is the staff? I've seen it done, but it was a big staff. Having the games on separate days doesn't help. Gameday would have to be run by a skeleton crew. |
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Post by 42falcon on Mar 27, 2014 21:49:06 GMT -6
We have 5 coaches on the JR end and 11 in the SR team.
You r bang on that games on different days suck
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Post by Chris Clement on Mar 27, 2014 22:08:13 GMT -6
I think it can be done. It would be easier if you were a one-platoon team and you could have 4 coaches per unit or you could split Jr/Sr but assuming you aren't then it will be tight but doable. It'd help if you could rustle up a couple of helpers and if someone is able to plan practices in excruciating detail.
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Post by spos21ram on Mar 28, 2014 7:28:55 GMT -6
Biggest problem is the massive disparity in physical maturity and understanding of the game. It helps if your older players are more responsible and look out for the younger ones, takes off the load of babysitting. Still it's hard to teach the nuances of the pull and wrap when you still need to get one kid into a stance. You might have them practicing together on paper, but they have vastly different needs. This is where I've found it useful to have coaches who don't necessarily have a ton of knowledge but they can run a drill competently and correct a few basic things so you can work with the other half of the group. We are speaking grades 10-12 here. I disagree that there is a massive physical maturity difference and understanding of the game between that age group. Of course there are weak players who lack football knowledge on every team, just like there are a handful that are leaps and bounds ahead of the rest. But as an overall team there isn't a huge difference in maturity. If we are talking 8th and 9th graders practicing with 11th and 12th graders then yes I'd agree with you. Back in the late 90's our program was booming after a state championship win and a couple state championship game losses. We were getting 80-105 players out for a few year stretch of grades 9-12 (roughly 70 from grades 10-12). We have always practiced together as a team, except the freshmen go up against other freshmen or smaller 10th graders during indy drills and then do team time on their own. We have always practiced grades 10-12 together and we have never had a problem. The better kids go against the better kids in indy. We have 6 paid coaches and 2-3 volunteers every year. Practicing together with 80-90 kids is definitely do able with 6-8 coaches especially if you don't 2 platoon. |
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Post by Chris Clement on Mar 28, 2014 8:06:40 GMT -6
You have to consider that in Canada football is much less popular, and youth football even less so. For those kids that didn't play youth football, this is quite possibly the first significant physical activity they've had in their lives. They've never lifted, without a doubt. If you tell one of those kids to play linebacker he won't have the first clue what you're talking about. And none of the coaches on staff receive a dime for their efforts. No football period, no special teaching schedules. A good number of the coaches might not even be particularly knowledgeable about football, they're just trying to do something nice for the kids.
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Post by 42falcon on Mar 28, 2014 10:36:21 GMT -6
Chris you are bang on with the kids who have never played & the fact as the line teacher in the group I'm the only paid guy. The rest of the coaches are pretty solid mostly ex pro guys everyone has atleast 3-5 years of university football so we r lucky there.
How would u account for teaching 30 DB's during individual time?
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Post by Chris Clement on Mar 28, 2014 11:22:08 GMT -6
By "paid" I assume you mean you're a teacher, not that you get a coaching stipend?
30 DB's? Um, make some of them receivers?
Seriously, work circuits during indy to keep things moving, back to back skelly, work 1on1's by running full plays and having one passer per pairing, try to move some to other positions.
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Post by dytmook on Mar 28, 2014 15:26:11 GMT -6
For about 3 years, even when we had a freshman team everyone does indy and group together. We will have 2 seperate lines for the younger/less experienced guys so they aren't over powered or hurt. During groups it's the same thing. For team we will break the youngers guys who don't scout for varisty off to work on their own.
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