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Post by holmesbend on Mar 25, 2014 7:26:03 GMT -6
I know this topic has been talked before I believe, but I'm just curious as to how each state does things.
I'm going to keep this as short and sweet as possible, while puttin the necessary info out.
KENTUCKY
- We have a Two Week state mandated "Dead Period" for all sports that runs the last full week of June, through the first full week of July...so, two weeks. Once it's over, around July 9th we can resume "workouts" (lifting, conditioning, can get the balls back out...heck, you could have full fledged practices if you wanted to do so...just with NO GEAR on).
-July 15th is the first day of practice. Here in KY, you have to have 5 practices with helmet, and 5 in shoulder pads before you can move onto full gear. There is no max limit to the number of practices you can have before your first game.
-7v7 vs outside competition isn't allowed until AFTER the above Dead Period, and you can only compete in 7v7's until your first full contact date (we essentially get 2-3 weeks of allowed 7v7 vs outside competion).
-Start of our season is the last full weekend in August, so last year is was August 23/24 (this year the 22nd and 23rd).
-We have an 11 week regular season...10 regular season games and one Bye week. Our state championships are played the 1st weekend in December.
-As far as the offseason goes, there are no restrictions on lifting or getting the balls out for that matter. We could (we don't and I never will) have full fledged practices with a ball, and no gear if we chose to do so from January up until July 15 if we chose to do so.
-We get Spring Practice, and each school gets to pick the time best for them (but, it has to be AFTER their schools basketball season is over). Most start up after Spring Break and we about 20 days to get in 10 practices.
Just curious as to what other states do? In particular those of you close to us (Indiana, Ohio, Tennessee, Virginia, WVA, etc.)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2014 17:12:02 GMT -6
July 15th seems insanely early for games that don't start until August 22nd and 23rd!
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Post by holmesbend on Mar 25, 2014 17:26:55 GMT -6
Agreed. Totally agree.
How does it work in Iowa?
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Post by holmesbend on Mar 25, 2014 17:27:31 GMT -6
It's actually kind of the point I'm getting to....
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Post by realdawg on Mar 25, 2014 17:31:21 GMT -6
I agree. Of course they have to practice for two weeks till they can hit. In NC we are dead until March 15. After that you can have "skill development" sessions as often as you want. This basically means you can practice as long as you don't hit or have more than 21 kids in attendance. Then we are dead again last 5 days of the semester. In the summer you can do whatever you want as long as you don't hit. Week of July 4 and state coaches clinic are dead weeks. Official practice starts August 1, 1st game is August 23rd I believe. You can do 7 on 7 all summer long.
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Post by fantom on Mar 25, 2014 17:42:25 GMT -6
I know this topic has been talked before I believe, but I'm just curious as to how each state does things. I'm going to keep this as short and sweet as possible, while puttin the necessary info out. KENTUCKY - We have a Two Week state mandated "Dead Period" for all sports that runs the last full week of June, through the first full week of July...so, two weeks. Once it's over, around July 9th we can resume "workouts" (lifting, conditioning, can get the balls back out...heck, you could have full fledged practices if you wanted to do so...just with NO GEAR on). -July 15th is the first day of practice. Here in KY, you have to have 5 practices with helmet, and 5 in shoulder pads before you can move onto full gear. There is no max limit to the number of practices you can have before your first game. -7v7 vs outside competition isn't allowed until AFTER the above Dead Period, and you can only compete in 7v7's until your first full contact date (we essentially get 2-3 weeks of allowed 7v7 vs outside competion). -Start of our season is the last full weekend in August, so last year is was August 23/24 (this year the 22nd and 23rd). -We have an 11 week regular season...10 regular season games and one Bye week. Our state championships are played the 1st weekend in December. -As far as the offseason goes, there are no restrictions on lifting or getting the balls out for that matter. We could (we don't and I never will) have full fledged practices with a ball, and no gear if we chose to do so from January up until July 15 if we chose to do so. -We get Spring Practice, and each school gets to pick the time best for them (but, it has to be AFTER their schools basketball season is over). Most start up after Spring Break and we about 20 days to get in 10 practices. Just curious as to what other states do? In particular those of you close to us (Indiana, Ohio, Tennessee, Virginia, WVA, etc.) Virginia: 1. Dead periods at the beginnings of winter and spring sports seasons plus one in July (1st week). 2. Other than dead periods we can do anything as long as there's no contact or pads. Workouts cannot be mandatory until the season starts. Some districts restrict the number of football workouts but ours doesn't. 3. No organized team activities (practices, workouts, meetings, games) on Sunday. 4. First practice can be July 31. First 5 practices are without pads. 5. First game date is August 29. 6. 11 weeks to play 10 games. 7. Playoffs start November 15. Championship games are December 13
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2014 18:06:46 GMT -6
I know this topic has been talked before I believe, but I'm just curious as to how each state does things. I'm going to keep this as short and sweet as possible, while puttin the necessary info out. KENTUCKY - We have a Two Week state mandated "Dead Period" for all sports that runs the last full week of June, through the first full week of July...so, two weeks. Once it's over, around July 9th we can resume "workouts" (lifting, conditioning, can get the balls back out...heck, you could have full fledged practices if you wanted to do so...just with NO GEAR on). -July 15th is the first day of practice. Here in KY, you have to have 5 practices with helmet, and 5 in shoulder pads before you can move onto full gear. There is no max limit to the number of practices you can have before your first game. -7v7 vs outside competition isn't allowed until AFTER the above Dead Period, and you can only compete in 7v7's until your first full contact date (we essentially get 2-3 weeks of allowed 7v7 vs outside competion). -Start of our season is the last full weekend in August, so last year is was August 23/24 (this year the 22nd and 23rd). -We have an 11 week regular season...10 regular season games and one Bye week. Our state championships are played the 1st weekend in December. -As far as the offseason goes, there are no restrictions on lifting or getting the balls out for that matter. We could (we don't and I never will) have full fledged practices with a ball, and no gear if we chose to do so from January up until July 15 if we chose to do so. -We get Spring Practice, and each school gets to pick the time best for them (but, it has to be AFTER their schools basketball season is over). Most start up after Spring Break and we about 20 days to get in 10 practices. Just curious as to what other states do? In particular those of you close to us (Indiana, Ohio, Tennessee, Virginia, WVA, etc.) We have a dead period that's basically the first two weeks of August and then we start official practice August 11th. Games start August 29th and we can scrimmage another school August 22 or 23rd if we so desire. We aren't limited in terms of days or 7 on 7s over the summer. None of our summer workouts or 7 on 7s are padded, but I don't know if that's state regulation or our program's choice. When official practice starts, I think we have to go two days of no pads, three days of helmet and shoulder pad, and then full pads after that. Last year was the first year of those regulations, so it might be three days no pads, two days of helmet and shoulder. We play our 9 games in 9 weeks, but our playoff schedule is sort of screwy as first round games are the Wednesday after the last Friday and then the second round is the Monday after that. So, teams that make it to at least Round 2 end up playing 3 games in 11 days. Title games are played the weekend before Thanksgiving. No spring ball, but it would be impossible to do that in Iowa, because soccer, track, tennis, and golf are all spring sports in Iowa. Wouldn't really have enough numbers to make it worthwhile. Baseball is a summer sport, which does create some conflict for summer football. Nothing major, just more annoying at times when kids feel they can't lift in the morning because of a baseball game that evening.
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Post by holmesbend on Mar 25, 2014 19:08:08 GMT -6
Sounds like most of us need to adopt your practice start times and you all need to adopt our playoff systems. lol
Thanks for the replies everyone.
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Post by rpetrie on Mar 25, 2014 21:10:07 GMT -6
New York (Long Island specifically) - start date this year for practice is Aug. 18. Usually the first game is the 2nd weekend after Labor Day. Take that date & count backwards 22 potential practice days...that's day #1. - 2 days helmets only, 3 days helmets & shoulder pads; 11 minimum practices before first scrimmage & 17 before first game. - No dead periods, but no "contact" practices before official start date (unless you are at a team camp sponsored by a college...never would do this anyhow but some do in mid-July) - No restrictions on 7v7 except for no pads - In our Section we have a 10/5 rule before Labor Day weekend...no practices after 10AM or before 5PM because of potential heat, so we go from 7:30-10:00AM & 5:00-7:00PM for double sessions. - 8 game regular season; no bye-weeks (typically); 4 rounds of playoffs...championship game is Thanksgiving weekend. - No spring football, but weight room/intramurals allowed...no mandatory workouts & no scrimmages/contact - We can play/practice on Sunday's if necessary, just can't go 7 consecutive days unless it is in the playoffs then the rule ceases.
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Post by rebelfootballcoach on Mar 25, 2014 22:08:29 GMT -6
California........not even sure where to start. Every section has it's own rules. Can't even begin to tell you. In Southern Section you can start practicing and doing 7 on 7 in January. Only restriction is no equipment until fall practices begin. You cannot attend or hold a team camp. In the Central Section you have 15 spring practices otherwise can't do any football related activities outside the football class. You can hold or attend Team Camps. I believe there are 11 sections each with their own rules for what is allowed.
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Post by macdiiddy on Mar 26, 2014 21:27:53 GMT -6
Indiana is currently going through some major rule changes this year. Regulating spring and summer practices.
Indiana
- We have a 1 week dead week, 1st week of July
-You can have as many practices you want during the summer as long as you dont use helmet and shoulder pads.
-You are now allowed 5 "Competition Days", competition days are anything you do with another high school. 7v7, lineman games, camps. (this was previously not regulated)
-Starting this year you now can only have 12 padded practices before august 1st. Before this was not regulated.
-Start of the season is normally the 2nd to last weekend of August
-We have 9 regular season games and 6 playoff games (if you go to state). In Indiana, everyone is in the playoffs, teams that go 9-0 and teams that go 0-9 all have a chance to win a state championship starting week 10.
-Not much as far as off season regulations. Can essentially practice when you want.
-We have no spring ball
-2-a-days start August 1st. You can only be in helmets for the first four days. And starting this year the first 4 days you can only have one practice. After that you must alternate between two a days and one a day.
-When you have a 2 a day there must be a 3 hour break between practices. During that time you can meet for no longer than 45 minutes for walk through and/or film.
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Post by irishdog on Mar 27, 2014 16:33:03 GMT -6
Texas: State is divided between public schools (UIL), and private schools (TAPPS) so the rules are different. UIL 6A and 5A schools (largest classes) can opt to have spring practice or not. If they have spring practice they cannot officially start fall practices until the second week in August. If they don't have spring practice they can start fall practices the first week in August. Spring practice has been eliminated for UIL 4A schools and below. TAPPS schools have the option to have spring practice or not, regardless all TAPPS schools start the first week in August. However all TAPPS schools have a mandatory dead week the last week of July before fall practices start in August. Both UIL and TAPPS schools have an acclimatization period (3 days and 4 days) prior to contact practices in August. UIL limits the number of scrimmages based upon practice start date in August. TAPPS schools can only have two scrimmages. Both associations closely follow the NCAA rules regarding the structure of two-a-day practices (1-2-1-2-1), and on a two practice day cannot have contact in one of the two practices, with a 2 hour break in-between the practices. All UIL and TAPPS schools play 10 games with a bye. Playoffs start the third week in November, and the UIL state tournament championship games are played the second weekend of December. TAPPS state championship games are played the first weekend of December. At least that's how I have seen it over the past three years.
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Post by cls on Mar 28, 2014 7:26:14 GMT -6
Great topic. We really appreciate hearing how all of the other sports prepare and their regulations. OHIO - There is a dead period/no contact period for 30 days after your last game. -First practice is August 1st. We have two days of helmets and shorts/two days of uppers (shoulder pads), one day of full gear no contact, then contact is permissible from there out. -During the summer (June 1st until July 31) you can have 10 camp days/contact days. Those days can be in helmets and shorts and any instruction is permitted at that time. You may do linemen challenges, 7 on 7s etc at that time. But you can have no more than 10 days. -During the off season (30 days after your season until June 1st) you can do any kind of strength/speed/agility training but there is no work with a ball -Regulations have changed a little this past year, being that you may now coach/instruct no more than 4 kids with a ball during the off season. So, essentially you can work QB and 3 receivers if you want every day. -Regular season is 10 games in 10 weeks and schools are responsible for scheduling their own games. Some schools only play 9 games. -We have a Harbin Computer ranking system that determines playoffs, Ill try to make it sound simple: There are 7 Divisions with Division I being the biggest enrollment and Division VII. The bigger the school you beat with the better record, the more points you gain (IE if a Division III team beats a 8-2 Division I team it is more points than a Division III 8-2 team). The top 30% of the schools in each division earn their way into the playoffs based on points. -There are 5 rounds of playoffs, if you make the state championship you play 15 games. State Finals are the weekend after Thanksgiving.
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Post by holmesbend on Mar 28, 2014 15:36:18 GMT -6
CLS,
Thanks for sharing.
Question about the summer (June 1st-July 31st) when it comes to lifting....is that part of the 10 camp day/contact days? Or are you all allowed to lift/condition your kids everyday if you chose to (not that I am ANYWAY in favor of that, just a hypothetical)?
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Post by cls on Mar 29, 2014 7:40:49 GMT -6
Yes you can lift/condition all you want through the summer. There is no "no contact" period in Ohio except for the 30 days immediately after the season.
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Post by winstate on Mar 29, 2014 9:14:37 GMT -6
Also in Ohio, starting this year, a coach can work with 4 players at a time after the 30 day dead period after the season. No helmet or pads, but a football can be used. It is a new rule and we have not used it yet. We have a lot of players in other sports, but once the weather breaks up here, we will do some things.
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Post by coachdawhip on Apr 6, 2014 16:01:02 GMT -6
GA
Spring Football 10 practices in 13 Days or forgo Spring and have 2 scrimmages
Dead Week 4th of July
Full contact the rest of the summer, as much 7on7 as u want.
July 25th practice 5 days is helmets b4 full pads
25% of us play Game 1 on 8/22 the majority on 8/29
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Post by spreadjet31 on Apr 6, 2014 16:28:35 GMT -6
In Maine we basically get screwed from the State Championship games until the Spring sports season ends. We have no Spring ball, can do nothing organized, I don't think we are even supposed to say the word "football" to our players. We can have scheduled workouts, but they must be open to all students in the district, not team specific.
Once the Spring sports season ends, we can have all the practices we want (no contact) until 2 weeks prior to the start of pre-season. This is our "Dead" period. This year it will be from August 4th through August 17th. After that we go 2 days (4 practices) with helmets only, 2 days (4 practices) in uppers, and then full pads and contact on the 5th day and the 9th practice. The length of practice time, additional meeting time, levels of contact and pieces of field equipment allowed (sleds, heavy bags, etc...) progress along these same guidelines. Cannot scrimmage another team before 4:30 pm on the Monday of Week #2 and cannot have an exhibition until the Friday or Saturday of Week #2. No practices, scrimmages, or exhibition games can take place between 11:30am and 3:00pm.
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