coachh
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Post by coachh on Nov 24, 2007 20:42:06 GMT -6
As I watch the HS states Championships, one school has some requirements before a player gets their decal, or stripes on their helmets. They mentioned things like mile time, lifting, off season conditioning etc. How many of you do something like this? I would love to hear what you require to earn things.
The only thing that I have done is how they choose their jersey number by their commitment in the off season.
Thanks
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Post by Yash on Nov 24, 2007 20:55:12 GMT -6
I'm all for helmet stickers and all of that, but mile time? When do you run a mile in football. Make it relevant to the task at hand. Football is 80 4 second bursts, not a 7 minute run.
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Post by Coach Goodnight on Nov 24, 2007 21:05:19 GMT -6
I agree with yash but then again I can see that if they can run a mile "easily" then they might have some endurance built up!
I too would like to see some rewards for earning the decals/stripes
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Post by wildcat on Nov 24, 2007 21:07:36 GMT -6
As I watch the HS states Championships, one school has some requirements before a player gets their decal, or stripes on their helmets. They mentioned things like mile time, lifting, off season conditioning etc. How many of you do something like this? I would love to hear what you require to earn things. The only thing that I have done is how they choose their jersey number by their commitment in the off season. Thanks H - Are you talking about Naperville North? I'm not sure how much things have changed since 1991, but we used to have to attend 80% of summer weightlifting sessions to get that white stripe down the center of the helmet. Then, for the blue stripe, we to do stuff like bench 200 pounds 5 times, squat 275 5 times, run a mile in "X" minutes, run 2 miles in "X" minutes, and a couple of other things. Then, we would get our "Dogs" (Huskie sticker for the side of the helmet) only when the captains and coaches recommended us. It was a great way to motivate guys to get in the weightroom. Nobody wanted to be a "pumpkinhead" (that's what we called the guys who didn't have their helmet stickers). Peer pressure is a bee-otch! |
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Post by coachh on Nov 24, 2007 21:15:59 GMT -6
Coach I was talking about NN thanks for the input. I definately like some of it, and may input it into the program.
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Post by khalfie on Nov 24, 2007 22:32:21 GMT -6
As I watch the HS states Championships, one school has some requirements before a player gets their decal, or stripes on their helmets. They mentioned things like mile time, lifting, off season conditioning etc. How many of you do something like this? I would love to hear what you require to earn things. The only thing that I have done is how they choose their jersey number by their commitment in the off season. Thanks H - Are you talking about Naperville North? I'm not sure how much things have changed since 1991, but we used to have to attend 80% of summer weightlifting sessions to get that white stripe down the center of the helmet. Then, for the blue stripe, we to do stuff like bench 200 pounds 5 times, squat 275 5 times, run a mile in "X" minutes, run 2 miles in "X" minutes, and a couple of other things. Then, we would get our "Dogs" (Huskie sticker for the side of the helmet) only when the captains and coaches recommended us. It was a great way to motivate guys to get in the weightroom. Nobody wanted to be a "pumpkinhead" (that's what we called the guys who didn't have their helmet stickers). Peer pressure is a bee-otch! What about the small players? The linemen? Different qualifications... or the same standards for everyone? |
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Post by wildcat on Nov 24, 2007 22:35:13 GMT -6
Like I said...it was 15 years ago, but I'm almost positive that we did something for the little guys...maybe it was benching and squatting their bodyweight for a certain number of reps...stuff like that.
That isn't the point, though...you can make the "events" whatever you want. The point is to publicly recognize the kids who participated in the summer program and the kids who did not.
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Post by khalfie on Nov 24, 2007 22:39:23 GMT -6
Like I said...it was 15 years ago, but I'm almost positive that we did something for the little guys...maybe it was benching and squatting their bodyweight for a certain number of reps...stuff like that. That isn't the point, though...you can make the "events" whatever you want. The point is to publicly recognize the kids who participated in the summer program and the kids who did not. That's exactly what I'd like to do... But, my team is composed of some itty bitties... and I don't have a clue as to what would be fair as opposed to too easy for earning the decals... Can't afford to lose a kid due to embarrasment... but I have to engender a pride in the offseason work out. |
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Post by coachbdud on Nov 26, 2007 1:26:30 GMT -6
requirements to get helmet stickers:
1. Be able to put stickers on your helmet
2. In case you can not follow #1, have a friend on the team do it for you
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Post by leighty on Nov 26, 2007 10:04:35 GMT -6
requirements to get helmet stickers: 1. Be able to put stickers on your helmet 2. In case you can not follow #1, have a friend on the team do it for you haha |
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Post by airman on Nov 26, 2007 15:52:30 GMT -6
I like this idea.
as for testing, go by percentages. a person who can bench press 150% of there body weight is considered really strong. to put that in perspective, 200 lb player is bench pressing 300 pounds.
often times your small guys are really your strongest. for example, a few years back the U of wisconsin had a lber who was 6-2 and 215lbs but bench pressed 415lbs. they has a lineman(aaron gibson) who was 6-7 and almost 400lbs. gibson could only bench press 415 pounds. who is stronger, really the lber is stronger however the lineman do to his mass makes him strong as well.
what I am saying is this, you could bench press based on percentage of weight say benching your weight is average. then increase by 10% points. so a 300lb lineman benching his weight is average. benching 330lbs is the next level. to give you another idea, larry allen the old dallas cowboys lineman weight 330 pounds and he could bench press 750lbs and squat nearly 900lbs. now that is a strong man.
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Post by airman on Nov 26, 2007 15:55:56 GMT -6
I like this idea. as for testing, go by percentages. a person who can bench press 150% of there body weight is considered really strong. to put that in perspective, 200 lb player is bench pressing 300 pounds. often times your small guys are really your strongest. for example, a few years back the U of wisconsin had a lber who was 6-2 and 215lbs but bench pressed 415lbs. they has a lineman(aaron gibson) who was 6-7 and almost 400lbs. gibson could only bench press 415 pounds. who is stronger, really the lber is stronger however the lineman do to his mass makes him strong as well. what I am saying is this, you could bench press based on percentage of weight say benching your weight is average. then increase by 10% points. so a 300lb lineman benching his weight is average. benching 330lbs is the next level. to give you another idea, larry allen the old dallas cowboys lineman weight 330 pounds and he could bench press 750lbs and squat nearly 900lbs. now that is a strong man. I believe sparq uses 125% of your body weight and up as a elite athlete. they also uses 32 in vertical, 3.69 to 4.19 in pro shuttle, under 4.6 in 40 yds dash as there measures for elite athlete status. |
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Post by coach79 on Nov 26, 2007 19:07:14 GMT -6
I agree with yash but then again I can see that if they can run a mile "easily" then they might have some endurance built up! I too would like to see some rewards for earning the decals/stripes Does it really matter if a football player can run a mile in 7 minutes? would you want a football player who can run a mile in seven minutes or a RB who can move the pile to get that TD for 4 seconds? that's my 2 cents |
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Post by larrymoe on Nov 26, 2007 19:41:20 GMT -6
We have a point system in place for showing up to workouts, 7on7s, camp, academic performance, etc. You have to have 225 pts before the first practice to dress for the first game. 250 to be eligible for a starting position and 275 to get your sticker. Our HC asked me won't we look stupid without everyone having stickers if they don't show up? I said I'd rather win games because we had a good core of kids that showed up then worry about how stupid we look.
We want to instill pride in our logo and make it a peer pressure/pride thing to get one.
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Post by Coach Goodnight on Nov 26, 2007 20:24:52 GMT -6
Ok say he can move that pile, but can only do it once because he has no stamina, I would like to have a rb that has both strength and endurance.
I do agree with you however!!
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Post by airman on Nov 27, 2007 13:04:37 GMT -6
football like fighting is largely a anaerobic activity. however, if you do not have a base aerobic conditioning you will fall. you see it all the time in wrestling. the best conditioned wrestlers usually are the ones who are able to go the longest. same in the UFC and Boxing.
NFL football has largely become a situational sub style of football. look at former packer gilbert brown. he played 1 or 2 downs then he came out. he was huffing and puffing after those two downs. pat williams for the vikings is another prime example. Ted washington when he played for the bears.
you look at the bears defense now. there tackles can play all 3 downs.
anaerobic conditioning can lead to aerobic conditioning.
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