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Post by fantom on Feb 4, 2014 9:30:01 GMT -6
LOL never said I agree with what they did....but I do have a question, you have colleges come in and ask about a particular kid who is terrible at school misses workouts and is a selfish individual who cares only about himself. When that college coach ask you about him are you going to lie or are you going to tell him the truth, and if you tell him the truth do you consider it bullying? Will let you on a little secret about coaching too, there are coaches who have been fired and those who are going to be fired...if someone wants you fired they can make up whatever they want and fire you...just the type of world Some people created.... Yup, most of us are working on our next job and do not even know it. It becomes harder to justify buying a home instead of being a life long renter if you are a coach. In any case, for me personally, when a college guy shows up and asks questions I am honest. I have already been honest with the kids and parents. I tell my guys up front. "Do not say the word scholarship if you are not attending workouts." I just don't think its likely to happen. Not at my school. I give them standards ( 1000 lb club for example) and I tell the kids and parents that I talk about these things with recruiters. The conversation could go like this: "If you look at our board here...these guys are our top lifters. This kid is here." Just honesty. Not bullying. You have to be honest to recruiters. They'll be back next year and you want them to respect your opinion because you may have a borderline kid. If I have a reputation as a guy who recognizes talent and is honest that may make the difference between schools offering or not offering that borderline kid.
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Post by veerman on Feb 4, 2014 12:27:19 GMT -6
Yeah I agree you got to be honest with them. I even agree being honest with parents and players as well, even though sometimes it cost you your job.
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Post by 33coach on Feb 4, 2014 12:52:24 GMT -6
You cannot lie to college coaches for a kid. That's one kid. You have a whole team of kids and more coming. So if I lie and tell Urban Meyer "yep, he's the right kind of guy" and the kid gets there and he's the same dope head, lazy, class skipping, jerkoff that he was in HS, the next time I have a kid is Urban going to trust my word? Heck no and neither would any of us. IMO, if you lie for one kid to "help him out" then you have done a disservice to every other player present and future in your program. and FYI - HONESTY is not BULLYING! Facts are facts. If you don't like them, then do something to change the facts. Until then, reality is what it is. whoever said "over 18 they are expected to deal with bullying, under 18 they are sheltered from it." I like that. That's a fact. Oh chit...it's a fact?!? I don't appreciate you bullying us with facts, but I'm over 18 so I'll deal with it I guess. unfortunately according to the nanny state, honesty is bullying if its in public. if I walk up to a kid in class and tell him he is failing and will never amount to anything...its bullying and I should expect a pink slip. even if he has a 0 in the class and is half brain dead from multiple drugs taken rectally.
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Post by coachcb on Feb 6, 2014 19:48:18 GMT -6
In my gig as an HC, we had a "Commitment Chart" posted in the weight room wall. It tracked the kids' attendance in either the gym or at another sport practice.
Those that missed either got a big ol' red in that date's box.
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