riggsbm
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Post by riggsbm on Jan 22, 2014 11:13:46 GMT -6
Coaches I need advice... I have a staff of 9 great assistants who are great coaches.
School dismisses @ 2:45
5 teach at the school, 1 of those has to drive a school bus after school until 4:30, one is the AD who sometimes has to handle something.
4 of my best coaches work outside of the school, though they can usually get off early, many times they have obligations at their jobs that cause them to be late or absent. This includes my OC.
Since school gets out at 2:45 and I have my players in class to lift, run, and watch film each day. How would you organize the staff or practice plan to get the most out of this staff? We have varsity and JV.
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Post by bruceeien on Jan 22, 2014 11:38:25 GMT -6
I had similar problems as my DC taught at another school and could not be at practice until 3:30 and we started practice at 2:45. What we did was condition and run special teams till he got there and ran practice when he arrived. You might run the JV yourself until they get there and start varsity practice later
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Post by coach2013 on Jan 22, 2014 11:45:14 GMT -6
School out at 245= 315 practice time.
This means the kids detentions/meetings for sports/extra help, snack time, trainer time will all be done by 315.
We combat the same thing you do with coaching staff issues.
Most often we have 2 coaches for frosh/jv and varsity for the first 30 minutes. usually we send half the group into the wt room, the other half with me for offense or defense work. Then we switch.
we basically count that as a 1.5 hour pre practice while getting the rest of staff to show.
Then its another 1.5 hours on the field.
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Post by fcboiler87 on Jan 22, 2014 11:48:46 GMT -6
We get out at 3. We have several lay coaches so we start practice at 4. We have a study table from 3:15 to 3:45. This is also the time for kids to see the trainer, etc.
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Post by lochness on Jan 22, 2014 12:08:54 GMT -6
Good coaches are not a dime a dozen so you want to do everything you can to hang onto those guys and have them contribute to your program. Many others have suggested exactly what we do, which is you structure your practice to have things upfront in the plan that are easy to handle with a minimal Staff. This could be conditioning, special-teams, film, weightlifting, etc. then you progress into your individual, group and team work later in the practice so that those guys are there and could be working with their kids.
I think any other approach to this is self-defeating. Try to be as understanding as flexible as you can to make sure that the guys who are dedicated and great teachers of the game can be there and working with the kidsso that you'll be a better team.
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riggsbm
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Post by riggsbm on Jan 22, 2014 18:23:41 GMT -6
Thank you coaches
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Post by utchuckd on Jan 23, 2014 8:28:40 GMT -6
We get out at 3. We have several lay coaches so we start practice at 4. We have a study table from 3:15 to 3:45. This is also the time for kids to see the trainer, etc. This is what we do.
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Post by Coach Bennett on Jan 23, 2014 10:07:23 GMT -6
My special teams coach is not a teacher and cannot make an entire week of practice.
What I do is ask him what days he can commit to and then I make our practice plan accordingly. Obviously, some days will be heavier than others w/specials but it's a small price to pay for a great coach.
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jmg999
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Post by jmg999 on Jan 24, 2014 0:43:30 GMT -6
Where I coached, there were several other coaches who not only had outside obligations, but three of them were head coaches at local high schools, while another was a DC. For the most part, they would make it to practice on time, yet our OC, who was a head coach elsewhere, only made two practices per week, and even one of those was just the last 45 minutes of practice.
The HC would simply delegate their responsibilities to the other coaches. Sometimes, it meant that the DL and LBs would work together in drills, or the QB coach would call plays. It certainly wasn't an ideal situation, but I suppose that you have to make do w/ what you have.
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Post by CoachWeitz on Jan 30, 2014 11:05:15 GMT -6
While we don't really have this problem one of the things we have done at my current school that may be a good fit is to run study tables. We do them twice a week for about a half hour. The kids who are not failing a class are in a large room with a few coaches and work on their homework. When I'm there my rule is it can be anything that's learning (kind of like the Google 20% rule, it's pretty cool to see them find something they find interesting and start enjoying learning). Those kids who are failing a class go to a different study hall where it is more structured and there are teachers there to help them and a coach or two to make sure they're on task. This is made possible by the awesome support we get from the teachers here but it is very effective on helping the kids get their homework taken care of and in an idealized world getting kids to enjoy learning.
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riggsbm
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Post by riggsbm on Jan 30, 2014 13:57:19 GMT -6
While we don't really have this problem one of the things we have done at my current school that may be a good fit is to run study tables. We do them twice a week for about a half hour. The kids who are not failing a class are in a large room with a few coaches and work on their homework. When I'm there my rule is it can be anything that's learning (kind of like the Google 20% rule, it's pretty cool to see them find something they find interesting and start enjoying learning). Those kids who are failing a class go to a different study hall where it is more structured and there are teachers there to help them and a coach or two to make sure they're on task. This is made possible by the awesome support we get from the teachers here but it is very effective on helping the kids get their homework taken care of and in an idealized world getting kids to enjoy learning. Do you have varsity and JV in study hall at the same time?
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Post by CoachWeitz on Jan 30, 2014 16:40:23 GMT -6
Yep varsity and JV in there together as well as freshmen during the tournament, freshmen had different days during the season. We were able to use one of the cafeterias so we had them all face the same direction and they had to have an empty seat between each other. Seems like a lot but when you take away all the alternatives you basically bore them into doing the right thing. It also made it pretty obvious when they were talking. The most important part though is the kids who were failing a class being in a separate study hall with tutors and a better ratio. The staff support was critical to making it work.
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Post by carookie on Jan 30, 2014 19:26:31 GMT -6
Im at a school now where there only two of us on campus (me and the HC), which is a unique situation to me. The HC really wanted some of these other coaches, but a couple of them have specific situations where they have to leave by a certain time.
So we divide up practice and they do not coach any D, offense is done by 4:30 and they are free to go.
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Post by coach2013 on Jan 31, 2014 6:50:51 GMT -6
You guys might think I am nuts but I choose an offense and defense package that I can basically coach alone. I have just myself and my freshman header in the building.
I know that every now and again Ill get a call from an assistant who cant make practice due to x, y, z and that's life. I am actually thinking about giving every assistant two "personal days" just to help them make plans for appointments and all that stuff. Its just a thought. I don't know yet. Might open the door for more days off.
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