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Post by footballscout on Jan 20, 2014 15:54:11 GMT -6
Do you keep coaching up technique and pointing things out to the kids as they warm up. For eg, clean release, no false steps, bring your hands with your feet etc. I definitely do, and I am always pointing these things out. Some times I wonder if I am over analyzing them too much. Vs just letting the kids get loose and get confidence up with out pointing out these things. Should I be concentrating on enthusiasm more then technique with kick off right around the corner to keep kids confidence up, or technique to keep it sharp?
Thoughts, and how do you go about it?
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Post by bruinfb on Jan 20, 2014 17:50:52 GMT -6
I like to coach them during warm up as well. I think it just sets the tone for doing all the little things right.
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Post by newt21 on Jan 20, 2014 18:46:56 GMT -6
I coach them up also, I feel like you're doing the kids an injustice if you don't coach them up as much as you can!
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Post by blb on Jan 20, 2014 18:54:15 GMT -6
The purpose of Pre-Game Warm-Up is to break a little sweat, get pads loose, and used to field conditions-environment.
Any more than that and you risk wearing them out before Kick off.
Why would you treat it like a practice? It's not.
I will gladly concede Pre-Game to opponents who want to spend a lot of energy hitting, yelling-chanting, etc. |
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Post by wolfden12 on Jan 20, 2014 19:10:11 GMT -6
I want the kids to be in the moment. I work very hard in developing relationships and understanding how my players respond to coaching and at certain points. Can they be told in front of others, buzz words, in the locker room, other player inform, etc. I try to be very confident and positive in the pre-game and usually provide buzz words and not be to verbose. I try to before the season communicate with each of them on a one-on-one basis and get feedback on many things like this to ensure they are comfortable and approachable in all situations.
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Post by blb on Jan 20, 2014 19:21:50 GMT -6
I want the kids to be in the moment. I work very hard in developing relationships and understanding how my players respond to coaching and at certain points. Can they be told in front of others, buzz words, in the locker room, other player inform, etc. I try to be very confident and positive in the pre-game and usually provide buzz words and not be to verbose. I try to before the season communicate with each of them on a one-on-one basis and get feedback on many things like this to ensure they are comfortable and approachable in all situations.
Coach, I'm not sure what you're communicating here about Pre-Game, but in my experience the less said before the game the better.
Confident and positive, and not to verbose, is always good.
When I was a young coach I thought I had to be coaching full speed in Pre-Game and give them a big "Pep Talk" to get them ready.
What I discovered was I was wearing them out and making them so uptight you couldn't pull a pin out of their asses with a tractor.
Before we go out for Pre-Game I remind them purpose of it as I wrote earlier in thread.
When we come back in-before we go back out, I tell them whether we're Kicking off or receiving, remind them of what game means to us, and what we have to do to win (takes about two minutes max - any more and they won't be hearing you anyway).
Then - "ARE YOU READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL?!?!"
They respond "YES, COACH!!"
We go hit the field, and then the opponents.
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Post by wolfden12 on Jan 20, 2014 19:25:20 GMT -6
blb,
I agree. I hope my response did not come off differently. I usually direct my insight to younger guys and others who maybe need reassurance or confidence that they are doing things right based on the week of practice.
Like I say, work all week to party on Friday Night!
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Post by shocktroop34 on Jan 20, 2014 20:15:20 GMT -6
blb, LOL on the pin/tractor line. Definitely stealing that one.
I was the same exact way in my first few years. I've since found more success by backing off on pre-game/game day. Personally, I've found that on game day (for the most part) kids are like 'STFU and just call plays so we can win this thing!'
Also, if they're (false stepping, poor technique-ing) in pre-game, the likelihood of me fixing it so they don't do it in the game is very slim. I'll get back to coaching them up when we look at the film.
Good thread. I actually forgot about this lesson I learned, but I do remember it being an enlightening moment when it dawned on me.
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Post by blackknight on Jan 27, 2014 14:50:55 GMT -6
I still coach them up during pre-game. And during the game as well. When something is wrong it must be corrected.
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Post by coachphillip on Jan 27, 2014 15:46:04 GMT -6
Like others have said, if it's wrong ten minutes before kickoff then it's going to be wrong at kickoff. I establish buzz words during the offseason and that's what I say during pregame. "Feet. Eyes. Hands." That's all they need to hear. If they're perfect then they hear "Hit. Next." Before we go to running plays on air, I will rally them up and say something very short. "Eyes up. Pads low. Trust each other. Let's go." I've always been blessed with "go to war" types like I was when I played.
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Post by coacht on Jan 28, 2014 8:45:03 GMT -6
Like others have said, if it's wrong ten minutes before kickoff then it's going to be wrong at kickoff. I establish buzz words during the offseason and that's what I say during pregame. "Feet. Eyes. Hands." That's all they need to hear. If they're perfect then they hear "Hit. Next." Before we go to running plays on air, I will rally them up and say something very short. "Eyes up. Pads low. Trust each other. Let's go." I've always been blessed with "go to war" types like I was when I played. I think you hit the nail on the head coach! This is the way I've always approached it. It's too late to for a kid to change something. You can emphasize things like, feet and hands. But if a kids doing something wrong, then you've been coaching him wrong all week. |
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Post by spreadpowero on Jan 28, 2014 9:32:50 GMT -6
As a coach, it is my job to get them ready before Friday night. If their technique hasn't been corrected by warm-ups, then the odds of them getting it right before kickoff is slim and none. Friday night is their night. Once the game starts, our job as a coach is to call plays and make adjustments .
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Post by rcm on Jan 28, 2014 10:21:49 GMT -6
All good points...I have a different issue. I am HC at a small school where we typically have 25 players on the team. About 9 or 10 guys play the majority of the game both ways. I find it incredibly difficult to even find things to do besides stretch, throw some routes on air and run through some plays against a dummy defense pre-game. We cant really break up into position drills, or give eachother a good look for 7on7.
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Post by blb on Jan 28, 2014 10:55:15 GMT -6
All good points...I have a different issue. I am HC at a small school where we typically have 25 players on the team. About 9 or 10 guys play the majority of the game both ways. I find it incredibly difficult to even find things to do besides stretch, throw some routes on air and run through some plays against a dummy defense pre-game. We cant really break up into position drills, or give eachother a good look for 7on7.
I coach in a similar situation. Our Pre-Game Routine is as follows:
15 minute Specialty period: Long Snappers-Punters-Punt Returners (DBs), Long Snappers-Holders PAT-FG-Kickoff Returners (RBs) 10 minutes; Routes on Air 5 minutes. Linemen (except for Snappers, Punters, or Kickers) stay inside, chalk talk, tell jokes, whatever.
Pre-Game is 5 minutes Warm-Up, 3-5 minutes Individual Defense (DL, LBers, DBs), 3-5 minutes Individual Offense (Backs, OL, WRs), Water Break.
Then Team Offense - 1s 10 plays (vs. Scout defense if we have numbers, vs. Air otherwise), 2s 10 plays.
Punt from +35, FG +10, then in.
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Post by coachphillip on Jan 28, 2014 10:55:47 GMT -6
Reviewing our special teams and who is on what has saved our butts this year. Our JV team hasn't had less than 11 on the field in three years. May sound like a stupid thing to be proud of, but I've seen wayyyyy too many plays go for TD's because Timmy forgot he's on the Punt team or Billy didn't know we were on defense.
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Post by tigercoach11 on Jan 28, 2014 11:10:50 GMT -6
I gotta be honest we may have the sloppiest looking pre-game routine out of anyone we play. Yes we have specific routine we do. And we cover the important stuff (breaking a sweat, getting loose etc..) The thing I am big on is we form tackle and we hit a little bit. Not to point of exhaustion but we do hit. ex.... after form tackle in Defensive Position Group the LB's do "Iso Drill". They don't go to the ground but the are to take on the FB full speed and the filler hits and wraps up thru BC and then lets go.
Just our way of doing things and I don't personally think it looks "bad" but Jeez some teams show up with a dang broadway show going on and I never can understand why "pre-game" is so important that you must look like you have a choreographer on staff.
After we warm up, captains are out and the rest hit the house. Wait on captains, pray as a team, the pre-game speech is usually "lets go kick their a$$". Sometimes I add a few more words in if they are specific to something related to that game etc, but never a long speech.
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Post by rcm on Jan 28, 2014 13:18:14 GMT -6
I coach in a similar situation. Our Pre-Game Routine is as follows:
15 minute Specialty period: Long Snappers-Punters-Punt Returners (DBs), Long Snappers-Holders PAT-FG-Kickoff Returners (RBs) 10 minutes; Routes on Air 5 minutes. Linemen (except for Snappers, Punters, or Kickers) stay inside, chalk talk, tell jokes, whatever.
Pre-Game is 5 minutes Warm-Up, 3-5 minutes Individual Defense (DL, LBers, DBs), 3-5 minutes Individual Offense (Backs, OL, WRs), Water Break.
Then Team Offense - 1s 10 plays (vs. Scout defense if we have numbers, vs. Air otherwise), 2s 10 plays.
Punt from +35, FG +10, then in.
Our is very similar with the difference that we dont do much indy. Our indy time is usually after we kick and punt...we just run routes on air.
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Post by kcbazooka on Jan 28, 2014 13:33:59 GMT -6
i worked with a coach who spent a LOT of time preparing for pre-game. The Thursday before our first game I bet we spent a half hour on how the kids were supposed to line up, run down the sideline, cut on the proper yard line and then space themselves apart to get ready to do jumping jacks. We've all had kids who can't do jumping jacks and we'd spend a lot of time on that.
Now when we get to the field we line up in 6 lines and start our warmup. If there are too many guys in a line we notice it after the first run through and even them up.
The longer i have been in coaching the less time we spend on pre-game.
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Post by coachplaa on Jan 28, 2014 15:13:27 GMT -6
I think if you coach them up in the pre-game warmup, its not going to have much effect. The kids' adrenaline is so amped in pre-game that they will have a hard time listening, let alone processing. Any coaching commands should be stuff the kids hear everyday and cause an automatic reaction or result. However, once the game starts, and kids start to settle in, I think that they are able to process and listen a little more. We try to make practice fast and frantic, as much as we possibly can, to try to slow down game night.
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