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Post by morris on Jan 19, 2014 9:39:54 GMT -6
I got to thinking about this from the Strong thread and stories about Meyer and other coaches. Now I understand it is college but the stories go if a player is hurt that player is placed into workouts until they can return. Now I assume these workouts are done in a manner in which it does not place the player in danger of hurting themselves further. So maybe for example if a player has a hurt arm the player should still be able to run in most cases and do other things. If a leg is hurt then a player can do upper body work among other things. So do any of you place players that are hurt into workouts until they are able to return at full go?
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Post by bluboy on Jan 19, 2014 10:44:58 GMT -6
Any injured player is required to come to practice in full gear unless the trainer says he can not wear full gear or he is receiving treatment. Injured players line up in their respective spot for warm-up's and do what they can (based on trainer-not player). During each period of practice, these same players travel with their respective position and do what they can (based on trainer), help with drills, coach younger kids, or watch. No one comes out to practice in street clothes. The worst case scenario has a player on the practice field in team-issued attire.
When we lift weights, the injured player will do what he can or receive treatment.
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Post by coach2013 on Jan 19, 2014 10:54:24 GMT -6
I used to be all about injured players continuing to practice.
Sometimes I think they just become a distraction standing around talking to assistants or other kids, getting attention and often not paying much attention.
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Post by Coach Huey on Jan 19, 2014 11:11:39 GMT -6
the "workouts" for injured players should be about:
1) rehabbing the injury so they can return to full action
2) keeping them in the best possible physical condition while they rehab the injury without further damaging the injured area
for us, it's about getting healed up and then being able to play in a game with out missing further time due to being out of shape ... i.e. if a player severely sprained his ankle early on, we can't have him play the second he's cleared if he has lost any type of "cardio" capacity. So, our trainer devises treatment/rehab plans that would involve treating the ankle but also providing some type of exercise (bike, swim, whatever) that would provide some level of "cardio" training for the player so he isn't a full month behind when he returns.
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Post by 42falcon on Jan 19, 2014 13:08:47 GMT -6
So I love the post in guys coming out in gear.
We have struggled in this area. Right now kids came out in street gear and were supposed to move from group to group this is darn near impossible to enforce. Once in full gear or partial gear I think it's easier. We will try some form of this in 2014
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Post by bgj on Jan 19, 2014 22:07:15 GMT -6
Yes
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Post by gamedaymusings on Jan 20, 2014 11:11:07 GMT -6
We have a program setup specifically for the injured players. It's designed to hit different areas of the body so that players can take part almost regardless of injury. The program is HARD. We want the players motivated to get back to practice. We have them with their position for game install and team work but at all other times we have an injured position group for indie.
How do coaches deal with a player who seems to enjoy missing practice?
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Post by blb on Jan 20, 2014 11:34:56 GMT -6
Our trainer is responsible for rehab (and she doesn't baby them, she works them out).
She will have them do as much as possible even if they can't practice full-go and get them back on the field ASAP.
If they're not working inside with her they are at practice with their helmet on (unless concussed) - "If you can't be a football player, at least look like one!" |
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Post by morris on Jan 20, 2014 12:23:55 GMT -6
We have a program setup specifically for the injured players. It's designed to hit different areas of the body so that players can take part almost regardless of injury. The program is HARD. We want the players motivated to get back to practice. We have them with their position for game install and team work but at all other times we have an injured position group for indie. How do coaches deal with a player who seems to enjoy missing practice? Coach can you got into a little more detail as far what you have them do? |
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Post by gamedaymusings on Jan 21, 2014 2:10:01 GMT -6
They are primarily bodyweight exercises since we don't have the equipment (like medicine balls) for everyone. We emphasize circuit training in these so that their cardio works into the program as well. Players are not asked to do something that will injure them further. They substitute exercises they can do for the ones they can't.
The first circuit can be: standing squats, back extensions, pushups, crunches 10x each, with no break in between. rest between sets. 3 sets.
second: lunges, supermans (back workout), jazz hands, obliques same
third (paired up): bodyweight squats, leg-ups, neck work same
Players are encouraged to go as fast as they can, safely.
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Post by fugulookinat on Jan 22, 2014 10:48:44 GMT -6
Ours is similar to Gamedays'. We use heavy ropes, med balls, sledge hammers, sand bags etc. for kids with leg injuries. We use stationary bikes, speed ladders, ab stations, etc. for kids with upper body injuries. All injured athletes are dressed out in team issued compression shirts and athletic shorts. The workout is conducted by our trainers in an area just outside our practice field so that they aren't able to communicate with the players who are practicing. The workout is 90 minutes long and is a kick in the pants, it's hard and is meant to condition them mentally to want to get back to practice. We don't work out the injured part of the athlete during practice. Practice time is for strength and conditioning. All injuries are treated before school at 6:30 am, and after practice at 5:30 pm.
So if you're injured:
1) You have to get up early to go to morning treatments.
2) You have to go through a butt kicking of a workout during practice.
3) you have to stay after practice to go through evening treatments.
We don't have many injured players because of this program.
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Post by tabs52 on Jan 23, 2014 8:53:49 GMT -6
Trainer is the one who makes those decisions, in the end its his butt on the line if something happens. If he feels player can dress then dress if not depending on the injury the guy needs to be getting the mental reps. I know if a players has a concussion until the cleared to begin the protocol the are not even allowed to smell their equipment
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Post by leighty on Jan 23, 2014 14:10:00 GMT -6
We have a 2/3 rule. You're in 2/3's gear. If you have a shoulder injury, you're in helmet and pants. If you have a concussion you're in shoulder pads, and pants. etc. The HC has designated a part of the field for these players to be in. They are not allowed with their position group. They are not allowed on the sideline or with the team in any other way other than in their own little section of the field. Now our trainer should be working with them to rehab the injuries but...he's too busy sitting in the stands, shaded by the pressbox, playing on his phone and drinking his 32 oz Mountain Dew...don't get me started. Sounds like your head coach wants to shame your injured players by exiling them. To those of you who force your players to dress out, what's the point? If a guy can't participate in practice, why does he need to be in shoulder pads as opposed to being dressed in a spirit pack? |
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Post by tabs52 on Jan 24, 2014 8:02:33 GMT -6
leighty
I agree with you on this
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Post by fugulookinat on Jan 24, 2014 10:29:46 GMT -6
Our Soccer coach makes his injured players wear pink shirts that say "Ball Shagger" to their games. Our kids don't want to be injured.
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