|
Post by shocktroop34 on Jan 12, 2014 21:36:01 GMT -6
Based on the amount of revenue your football program generates (including budget, fundraisers, donations, boosters, gate, concessions, etc.) how much do you operate on each year?
|
|
|
Post by shocktroop34 on Jan 13, 2014 13:48:40 GMT -6
Background info: I'm considering a school that has very little in the way of accommodations. No home field, small locker room, small weight room, etc. City school. They are looking to change things by starting with a big fundraising campaign. I was just trying to get an average number to start with based on what others were working with. Even if you're not the HC, but you have some idea of the amount, that would be helpful as well. Just trying to get a "ball park" number to go on. Thanks for any help.
|
|
|
Post by joelee on Jan 13, 2014 14:34:18 GMT -6
I'm no longer at this particular school but in my last HC job the school provided us with $12,000 per year and my booster organization spent $11,000 that year. This is not including coaching stipends, facility use and electricity for lights, and transportation (game buses) provided by the school free.
|
|
|
Post by joelee on Jan 13, 2014 14:38:04 GMT -6
We had the basics but felt VERY limited. Had to pay for so many things out of that and had to be savvy about which account I had to use for certain things. My coaches got a game night shirt and their stipend. Couldn't afford anything else. Paying for any clinic or even coaches association meetings was out of the question.
|
|
|
Post by larrymoe on Jan 13, 2014 14:55:29 GMT -6
This thread is going to amaze me I'm sure.
Does this include reconditioning? I say this because our reconditioning money comes out of a life safety fund and there really isn't a set number to it. I don't even really know how much it usually costs.
That being said, we have an annual budget of $3000. This year we broke a record for fundraising and raised $6000. We also received $2000 from our boosters toward new helmets. Before this year we had received a combined $700 over my first three years from the boosters. So this year we have about $11,000 to play with. In no way will we spend all of it. I will more than likely spend my entire budget and about half the fundraiser money along with all the booster money. We'll in total spend about $7-8000. Previous to this year we've made it on about $5-6K.
We're a coop of 345 in Illinois FYI.
|
|
|
Post by shocktroop34 on Jan 13, 2014 19:38:05 GMT -6
This thread is going to amaze me I'm sure. Does this include reconditioning? I say this because our reconditioning money comes out of a life safety fund and there really isn't a set number to it. I don't even really know how much it usually costs. That being said, we have an annual budget of $3000. This year we broke a record for fundraising and raised $6000. We also received $2000 from our boosters toward new helmets. Before this year we had received a combined $700 over my first three years from the boosters. So this year we have about $11,000 to play with. In no way will we spend all of it. I will more than likely spend my entire budget and about half the fundraiser money along with all the booster money. We'll in total spend about $7-8000. Previous to this year we've made it on about $5-6K. We're a coop of 345 in Illinois FYI. I can certainly relate. My first job sounds a lot like the place you're at now. We weren't a co-op but there were a lot around our area. 328 was our school pop. It was declining at the time I left. This is how ignorant I was as a new coach: I had a budget of 7k. I had to do everything out of that money, but that was the figure. If I didn't spend it by July 1, then it was rolled into the schools athletic budget, never to be seen from again. lol. I learned that lesson the hard way, my first year. Anyway, I had the nerve to go to my AD and ask for a larger budget, not knowing how great seven grand was for such a small school. We fundraised about 5k more a year through various ways (the lift-a-thon was the biggest). But like you, I had about 11-12k to work with. I bought A LOT of stuff in my three years there (Landro-anyone remember those?!, Endzone camera, new uni's, at least 15 new helmets a year, etc.) The job I just left had a grand whopping budget of zero dollars. I was told that whatever I fundraised, is what the budget was. There were not many things I missed leaving behind in my first job, except for the budget, that is.
|
|
|
Post by shocktroop34 on Jan 13, 2014 19:39:18 GMT -6
I'm no longer at this particular school but in my last HC job the school provided us with $12,000 per year and my booster organization spent $11,000 that year. This is not including coaching stipends, facility use and electricity for lights, and transportation (game buses) provided by the school free. Helpful, thanks joelee.
|
|
|
Post by rhscoachbh on Jan 15, 2014 2:53:55 GMT -6
Fundraising wise this year we raised in the range of $70k, maybe a little more, but had to pay back some debt for a trip taken 2 years ago. Finished in the black this year which was good. Hoping to fundraise a similar amount next season.
|
|
|
Post by shocktroop34 on Jan 15, 2014 12:00:51 GMT -6
Fundraising wise this year we raised in the range of $70k, maybe a little more, but had to pay back some debt for a trip taken 2 years ago. Finished in the black this year which was good. Hoping to fundraise a similar amount next season. Ummm...wow. Just curious, what size program are you in? ie. School pop and team pop... Have you started fundraising already this year?
|
|
|
Post by rhscoachbh on Jan 15, 2014 12:07:29 GMT -6
Fundraising wise this year we raised in the range of $70k, maybe a little more, but had to pay back some debt for a trip taken 2 years ago. Finished in the black this year which was good. Hoping to fundraise a similar amount next season. Ummm...wow. Just curious, what size program are you in? ie. School pop and team pop... Have you started fundraising already this year? We're in the Inland Division in southern California, which is considered D1 in the state bowl game system, so one of the largest divisions in the state. Usually have around 140 kids in the program total, 2400 kids in the school. We used to be able to fundraise a lot more, but now there are 3 high schools in town so it really cuts down on what we're able to raise.
|
|
|
Post by rhscoachbh on Jan 15, 2014 12:07:41 GMT -6
Double post.
|
|
|
Post by shocktroop34 on Jan 15, 2014 12:10:55 GMT -6
Ummm...wow. Just curious, what size program are you in? ie. School pop and team pop... Have you started fundraising already this year? We're in the Inland Division in southern California, which is considered D1 in the state bowl game system, so one of the largest divisions in the state. Usually have around 140 kids in the program total, 2400 kids in the school. We used to be able to fundraise a lot more, but now there are 3 high schools in town so it really cuts down on what we're able to raise. 10-4. Thanks coach. This is all very helpful.
|
|
|
Post by coachklee on Jan 15, 2014 19:56:31 GMT -6
This thread is going to amaze me I'm sure. Does this include reconditioning? I say this because our reconditioning money comes out of a life safety fund and there really isn't a set number to it. I don't even really know how much it usually costs. That being said, we have an annual budget of $3000. This year we broke a record for fundraising and raised $6000. We also received $2000 from our boosters toward new helmets. Before this year we had received a combined $700 over my first three years from the boosters. So this year we have about $11,000 to play with. In no way will we spend all of it. I will more than likely spend my entire budget and about half the fundraiser money along with all the booster money. We'll in total spend about $7-8000. Previous to this year we've made it on about $5-6K. We're a coop of 345 in Illinois FYI. So this has me convinced that if I am ever a HC, I will find legitimate reasons to spend most of my budget each year...especially if we/the kids raised it. New equipment 1st such as a lev sled, then helmets and/or shoulder pads and then team gear for staff/players. You never know how long your going to be the guy running that program, so I definitely wouldn't leave too much of the $$$ I helped raise sit around because I need it to benefit my kids/program now.
|
|
|
Post by shocktroop34 on Jan 16, 2014 6:52:01 GMT -6
This thread is going to amaze me I'm sure. Does this include reconditioning? I say this because our reconditioning money comes out of a life safety fund and there really isn't a set number to it. I don't even really know how much it usually costs. That being said, we have an annual budget of $3000. This year we broke a record for fundraising and raised $6000. We also received $2000 from our boosters toward new helmets. Before this year we had received a combined $700 over my first three years from the boosters. So this year we have about $11,000 to play with. In no way will we spend all of it. I will more than likely spend my entire budget and about half the fundraiser money along with all the booster money. We'll in total spend about $7-8000. Previous to this year we've made it on about $5-6K. We're a coop of 345 in Illinois FYI. So this has me convinced that if I am ever a HC, I will find legitimate reasons to spend most of my budget each year...especially if we/the kids raised it. New equipment 1st such as a lev sled, then helmets and/or shoulder pads and then team gear for staff/players. You never know how long your going to be the guy running that program, so I definitely wouldn't leave too much of the $$$ I helped raise sit around because I need it to benefit my kids/program now. That's true coach, or when you get a job, ask them how you might be able to stock some money away in another school account that won't be touched. That way you can build on it. It was just policy at my old school if the money wasn't spent by the end of the fiscal year then they took it back. But I'm guessing that not every school is run that way? Not sure. I hated spending money on stuff that I could use, but didn't necessarily need at that particular time. I was spending it (like you said) because I raised the money and didn't want anyone else using what we worked hard for. But anyway, I would check on the policy where ever you're hired.
|
|