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Post by chaz111 on Feb 1, 2008 18:17:19 GMT -6
What do you ask from the booth when calling plays from the sideline?...i have tried different things but I feel it has not been efficient and my info from the booth is not on task enough...any ideas will be appreciated.
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Post by coachmoore42 on Feb 1, 2008 19:17:32 GMT -6
I like to have them looking at a specific spot on each particular play. For example, on an option play, I want an offensive coach looking at specific block, probably on one of the guys going up to a LBer. I also want a defensive coach watching the read key to make sure we see his reaction. If you have more spotters, you can obviously watch more things.
This would be predetermined for each play, as you would not have time to recite each target every play. If you have a spread sheet with the coaches' names across the top and the play call on the left, each one could easily find their target for that play quickly following the call.
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Post by wildcat on Feb 1, 2008 19:30:15 GMT -6
I want to know:
1) what coverage is being played
2) where the defensive linemen are lining up
3) who is making the tackles
I feel that if I know these three things, I can do a decent job of calling plays.
With that being said, we really didn't get that at all this past season. The guys we had in the booth simply weren't on the same page with the guys down on the field. I think we have that corrected now.
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Post by chaz111 on Feb 2, 2008 14:07:54 GMT -6
Wildcat...you describe the way I try to do it and the way it has fallen apart on me. I work with great guys...i run into the problem of coaches that tend to give info thats not there...or guess a little...thanks for the reply
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Post by wick3399 on Feb 4, 2008 9:27:22 GMT -6
I'm much the same way as Wildcat, I want to know more so the predetermined areas on the defense that give the best chance for success on a certain play. As far as what to look for during the play,...well that's a whole lot more to ask of. The best way to be on the same page with your eyes upstairs is to actually take a tape of a game and explain specifically where and what they should be looking for on each defense, alignment, and reaction for each specific play.
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Post by olinecoach61 on Feb 4, 2008 9:48:46 GMT -6
I experienced a lot of the same problems so this year I went into the booth. It was so much easier to see the coverage and attack a defenses weakness, I didn't need to rely on someone else's eyes, of course I did miss the sideline communication, especially during timeouts.
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Post by carookie on Feb 4, 2008 9:55:08 GMT -6
Also, from the defensive end, keeping an eye on personel. I've got the best vantage point to see when they bring in 4 wides or their jumbo personel.
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Post by coachweav88 on Feb 4, 2008 12:03:56 GMT -6
I think it depends on the playcaller. I was in the booth this year and our head coach told me, "just give me plays." So basically, I'd relay things I think might work and he'd have the final say.
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Post by superpower on Feb 4, 2008 12:23:12 GMT -6
1. Who is making the tackles?
2. Where is he coming from?
3. How come we aren't getting him blocked?
4. Can we use his aggressiveness against him?
5. Are they vulnerable for a shot downfield?
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Post by Coach Bennett on Feb 4, 2008 12:29:04 GMT -6
I experienced a lot of the same problems so this year I went into the booth. It was so much easier to see the coverage and attack a defenses weakness, I didn't need to rely on someone else's eyes, of course I did miss the sideline communication, especially during timeouts. I'm toying with same idea. Selfishly, I want to be on the sideline with the kids in the heat of it so to speak. BUT, having just had a coach of 20 years retire, our eyes-in-the-sky will be somewhat suspect. I imagine it will be so much easier to call plays from the tower especially after having watched film all week from basically the same perspective. |
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Post by ram7gm on Feb 4, 2008 14:08:30 GMT -6
I like the idea of all coaches having a spreadsheet on their call sheet that indicates specifically what they're responsible for watching/coaching on each specific play.
I also would not be opposed to giving my "eyes in the sky" one of those pre-made checklist-type forms (almost like a stat sheet) that they could just fill out as the game went on, could reference real quick when I ask for specific info, and that I could review at halftime.
Lastly - and I think the best way, in my personal opinion - is to get on the same page with all of the coaches DURING THE WEEK. That comfort level and familiarity comes from hours of film study and meetings, so even before the play is run, each coach knows what to look for/do/say because they've already discussed it so much in game-planning sessions during the week.
(Having said all that, I obviously realize that's difficult, what with families, busy schedules, other obligations, etc. Just stating my ideal view of it.)
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Post by ram7gm on Feb 4, 2008 14:10:50 GMT -6
I'm amazed at how many HS coordinators (both O and D) who aren't also the HC are on the field and not in the booth, particularly OCs. In previous years as an asst, I was in the booth, serving as the eyes in the sky for the OC who was down on the field. I always thought that once I became an OC I would stay in the booth (vantage point, calm away from sideline, etc.) but then I moved to the sideline as an asst for a few years and when I became an OC, I wanted to stay.
I hope I'm not staying there out of my own selfish needs (heck, it's a lot more FUN and EXCITING on the sideline... I enjoy the rush of friday nights down on the field!)
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Post by thakatalyst on Feb 4, 2008 14:21:29 GMT -6
I have my guy in the booth go through a checklist of things to look for. I was up in the booth two seasons ago, so I had an idea of what my DC wanted to know. Like everything else in football, there is a progression  -field position -personnel -potential formations -the actual formation -are we lined-up right? -the type of play they ran -was the person who was supposed to make the play make the play? Last season's booth help straight up stunk. As the DC, I need my eyes in the sky to give me information. I contemplated going up into the booth myself, but I didn't want to do that in the middle of the season. I like being down on the sidelines, but if I don't get good booth help, I will go up there myself. |
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Post by bluboy on Feb 4, 2008 15:47:31 GMT -6
After reading all these posts, I condsider myself VERY LUCKY. I am a DC who is on the field. The defensive line coach (a 20-year vet) is in the box; and he gives me all the info that thakatalyst mentions, as well as charts the offense.
As I said, I am lucky.
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Post by brophy on Feb 4, 2008 16:03:41 GMT -6
What do you ask from the booth when calling plays from the sideline?...i have tried different things but I feel it has not been efficient and my info from the booth is not on task enough...any ideas will be appreciated. |
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Post by htownoc on Feb 8, 2008 10:20:49 GMT -6
1. Deep Coverage (2,1 or 0 high safeties)
2. WR Cushion (can we throw uncovered? can we throw a quick fade?)
3. Defensive Front alignment (can we take the edge? is there trap bait? etc.)
4. Are we currently in a bad play and need to audible?
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