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Post by carson101 on Mar 18, 2008 21:42:55 GMT -6
If there was only one defense in the would of football,what would it be and why?
{it has to be one defense that is simple enough to adjust to all types of offenses, if thats possible}
My choice would be a 3-5-3 because it is simple enough to choose man, man free,or plain zone
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Post by Coach Huey on Mar 18, 2008 21:49:30 GMT -6
as far as multiplicity, either a 4-3 cover 2 shell or a 5-2 (3-4) cover 2 shell.
start there, and progress
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Post by coachd5085 on Mar 18, 2008 21:49:49 GMT -6
Any defense can adjust to all types of offenses. Regardless of what "numbers" you use to describe a defense, any defense can send 3-4-5-6- man pressures, any defense can drop 6,7,8 or play man, any defense can play 2 deep, 3 deep, 4 deep.
The numbers that you name a defense are absolutely one of the most irrelevant things in all of football.
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Post by leighty on Mar 18, 2008 22:17:25 GMT -6
4-3
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Post by khalfie on Mar 18, 2008 22:32:32 GMT -6
Odd
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Post by coachnichols on Mar 18, 2008 23:02:02 GMT -6
Any defense can adjust to all types of offenses. Regardless of what "numbers" you use to describe a defense, any defense can send 3-4-5-6- man pressures, any defense can drop 6,7,8 or play man, any defense can play 2 deep, 3 deep, 4 deep. The numbers that you name a defense are absolutely one of the most irrelevant things in all of football. Maybe we should say philosophy. I say that because it seems many 4-3 guys, while they can obviously, don't blitz a lot. At the same time, it seems to be part of the philosophy of the odd stack (3-3/3-5) to blitz more often, sometimes all the time. At the same time, many odd stack teams don't run cover 2, but many 4-3 coaches seem to think cover 2 is the greatest thing since sliced white bread. So, maybe we should be talking about philosophy? I don't know, just thought I would throw this out there. |
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Post by mrfr33z3 on Mar 19, 2008 0:12:43 GMT -6
hey look into stuff that guys like Huey, Brophy, PSS wrote on some Defensive approaches. on simplicity and things of that nature these guys tha tell you stuff on here tend to either have done it or are doing these things as we speak so just find what works for you as far as teaching and based on what types of kids you have in your program ( size wise, speed) to determine what you wanna do. trust me I've learned alot from alot of different members on here. but here's a tip.......try using the Search button first then ask....lol
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Post by olinecoach61 on Mar 19, 2008 6:49:12 GMT -6
4-4
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Post by lochness on Mar 19, 2008 7:15:47 GMT -6
3-4 / 5-2 with a 4-spoke secondary.
Why?
-Shade the front strong and eagle down the weakside and you're in a 4-3 under look
-Drop down the SS and walk off the weak OLB / DE and you're in a 4-4 look
-Drop off the weak OLB / DE and shade the front weak in your in a college 4-3 look
-Eagle the DT's down and get into man free, and you're in a 46 Bear look
-It is the best defense to run against balanced offenses (in my opinion) such as 2x2 gun, straight T, Double Wing, etc.
-4 LB and 4 DB make it moderately flexible, yet not too weak in any one area.
-4-spoke secondary concepts let your secondary players be the primaryadjusters 90% of the time. It's excellent for adjusting to multiple offenses and formations.
-Can range from a 9-in-the-box mentality to a 5-in-the-box mentality with little adjustment to personnel or scheme.
[glow=orange,2,300]etc. etc. [/glow]
And, YES, most good defenses (30 stack, 4-3, etc) are also capable of the same kind of flexibilty. That's what makes defenses good! So, it all comes down to what I'm personally most comfortable with to "base" out of and can sell / teach these kinds of adjustments to the kids without it seeming too complicated. In the end, for me, that's the Odd front 3-4 / 5-2 defense.
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Post by dubber on Mar 19, 2008 8:54:33 GMT -6
Straight line defense   |
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Post by coachcb on Mar 19, 2008 10:20:17 GMT -6
Any defense can adjust to all types of offenses. Regardless of what "numbers" you use to describe a defense, any defense can send 3-4-5-6- man pressures, any defense can drop 6,7,8 or play man, any defense can play 2 deep, 3 deep, 4 deep. The numbers that you name a defense are absolutely one of the most irrelevant things in all of football. Maybe we should say philosophy. I say that because it seems many 4-3 guys, while they can obviously, don't blitz a lot. At the same time, it seems to be part of the philosophy of the odd stack (3-3/3-5) to blitz more often, sometimes all the time. At the same time, many odd stack teams don't run cover 2, but many 4-3 coaches seem to think cover 2 is the greatest thing since sliced white bread. So, maybe we should be talking about philosophy? I don't know, just thought I would throw this out there. |
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Post by lochness on Mar 19, 2008 11:50:31 GMT -6
Maybe we should say philosophy. I say that because it seems many 4-3 guys, while they can obviously, don't blitz a lot. At the same time, it seems to be part of the philosophy of the odd stack (3-3/3-5) to blitz more often, sometimes all the time. At the same time, many odd stack teams don't run cover 2, but many 4-3 coaches seem to think cover 2 is the greatest thing since sliced white bread. So, maybe we should be talking about philosophy? I don't know, just thought I would throw this out there. Yeah, I mean, in the end, that was my point. You guys all know by know that I agree with this. ;D |
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Post by knight9299 on Mar 19, 2008 12:23:35 GMT -6
40 42/43/44 - they're all pretty much the same I'm glad I read all the replies before I responed with a 40 front. |
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Post by tedseay on Mar 19, 2008 12:35:19 GMT -6
If there was only one defense in the would of football,what would it be and why? {it has to be one defense that is simple enough to adjust to all types of offenses, if thats possible} My choice would be a 3-5-3 because it is simple enough to choose man, man free,or plain zone 5-5-1 2-Level, without a single doubt. Best goal-line to goal-line package I know of. |
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Post by spreadjet31 on Mar 19, 2008 12:42:41 GMT -6
The 30 Stack has been our defense of choice for the last five years. The two "inverts" allow us to stem in many different looks as well as get more athletes on the field. If you've got more than 3 good DLs then you can platoon or rotate and keep 'em fresh. The only weakness I've seen has been some vanilla coverages, but c.3, c.0, and c.1 are normally all we need.
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Post by coachwarner on Mar 19, 2008 15:40:41 GMT -6
If there was only one defense in the world of football. it would be soccer.  |
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Post by eickst on Mar 19, 2008 23:59:23 GMT -6
If there was only one defense in the would of football,what would it be and why? {it has to be one defense that is simple enough to adjust to all types of offenses, if thats possible} My choice would be a 3-5-3 because it is simple enough to choose man, man free,or plain zone 5-5-1 2-Level, without a single doubt. Best goal-line to goal-line package I know of. I agree, but that book is NOT an easy read. Not even the fifth time around. |
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Post by carson101 on Mar 20, 2008 0:58:03 GMT -6
I like soccer although I'd like it more if I had played it.I like the running aspect of it most but at my age I would die in about 10 yards
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