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Post by John Knight on Oct 25, 2013 12:23:16 GMT -6
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Post by paketterman on Oct 25, 2013 12:27:27 GMT -6
I think a highschool team in Texas did it in the state title game a few years back.
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Post by paketterman on Oct 25, 2013 12:28:55 GMT -6
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Post by John Knight on Oct 25, 2013 12:37:33 GMT -6
It is illegal in NFHS play if the officials will call it. But that depends on the officials.
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Post by joelee on Oct 25, 2013 12:48:43 GMT -6
I'm missing something. What makes it illegal?
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Post by John Knight on Oct 25, 2013 12:49:48 GMT -6
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Post by morris on Oct 25, 2013 15:13:31 GMT -6
Well according to the link it appears it is legal. There was a debate about it but it does appear legal. The people that had an issue with it also had a number of criteria that if met they would say it's ok. This is one of those things you talk to the officials about before hand to make sure everyone is on the same page.
Someone ran this in college this year. It might of been auburn and the defense went on the snap and about killed the qb. In fact malzahn runs a lot of plays like this. I know it's college but just giving an example.
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Post by John Knight on Oct 25, 2013 15:42:30 GMT -6
That is in Illinois though. Not all states will interpret the same way
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Post by morris on Oct 25, 2013 18:57:39 GMT -6
That's why you talk to the officials. It clears up a lot of stuff
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Post by silkyice on Oct 26, 2013 6:05:08 GMT -6
If you watch the second one (state championship game) closely, the running back never comes set, so it should be illegal.
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Post by morris on Oct 26, 2013 8:19:41 GMT -6
Illegal because of not being set. Not because the play itself is.
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Post by k on Oct 26, 2013 8:29:35 GMT -6
Illegal because of not being set. Not because the play itself is. They all look set to me. Just in unconventional stances. |
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Post by morris on Oct 26, 2013 8:37:11 GMT -6
I was just going off the post. I didn't go back and look at the video again. I would be very surprised if a team got flagged for the play. I think it is a complete none issue if you tell the officials pre-game.
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Post by airraider on Oct 26, 2013 14:11:37 GMT -6
scored on it 2 years ago, and ran it this year but did not work.
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Post by morris on Oct 26, 2013 15:20:20 GMT -6
scored on it 2 years ago, and ran it this year but did not work. Where did you get it or come up with it? |
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Post by silkyice on Oct 26, 2013 15:33:37 GMT -6
Illegal because of not being set. Not because the play itself is. They all look set to me. Just in unconventional stances. In my opinion, the back never stops moving. He has to be set and still for 1 second before the snap. |
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Post by k on Oct 26, 2013 16:33:52 GMT -6
They all look set to me. Just in unconventional stances. In my opinion, the back never stops moving. He has to be set and still for 1 second before the snap. QB? If so I'd say 99% of shotgun snaps and the majority of under center snaps with motion are flags. |
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Post by coachsmi0901 on Oct 26, 2013 16:42:52 GMT -6
My question is: How do you implement a play like this is you don't have a check-with-me system and are a traditional huddle team?
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Post by wingt74 on Oct 26, 2013 17:25:20 GMT -6
I hate coaches that try to use wrong ball plays, or some type of trick garbage that goes against the spirit of the game, especially in youth football.
This...on the other hand, is not that. Do we not teach our defenders that once that center's hands get on the ball to be ready and watch the ball? To me, this is a perfectly legal play..
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Post by morris on Oct 26, 2013 18:17:06 GMT -6
My question is: How do you implement a play like this is you don't have a check-with-me system and are a traditional huddle team? Same way you quick snap teams. You just adjust to your post huddle routine or change your post huddle routine so you can run it. |
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Post by silkyice on Oct 26, 2013 18:30:20 GMT -6
In my opinion, the back never stops moving. He has to be set and still for 1 second before the snap. QB? If so I'd say 99% of shotgun snaps and the majority of under center snaps with motion are flags. I'm talking about the rb in the second video. The Texas state championship game. In the first one everybody is still. The qb is allowed to move. |
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Post by airraider on Oct 26, 2013 20:01:11 GMT -6
scored on it 2 years ago, and ran it this year but did not work. Where did you get it or come up with it? I am not real sure, I think Calvary Baptist in Shreveport ran it and I heard about it and thought it was a good idea... 2:11 on this video. |
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Post by k on Oct 27, 2013 17:33:59 GMT -6
QB? If so I'd say 99% of shotgun snaps and the majority of under center snaps with motion are flags. I'm talking about the rb in the second video. The Texas state championship game. In the first one everybody is still. The qb is allowed to move. Ah ok I was talking about the first video. And yes I know he is allowed to do that. Thats why I was like "wait what?" =) |
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Post by John Knight on Oct 30, 2013 11:23:35 GMT -6
How about this one, the barking dog!
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