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Post by John Knight on Sept 18, 2013 12:25:59 GMT -6
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Post by silkyice on Sept 18, 2013 12:42:10 GMT -6
Sounds awesome! Just think how bad Western Kentucky would have beaten them if they would have listened to music.
Isn't there a gigantic flaw in this research? Isn't there music every other play in the college games!!!! Isn't your fight or flight response going to engage in a game no matter what?
I love cutting edge stuff, but also have enough experience to know when it is either crap or just doesn't matter.
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Post by younggun10 on Sept 19, 2013 1:00:24 GMT -6
I wouldn't completely dismiss the research, but I do believe this might be a bit over the top. Plus it certainly isn't helping their recruiting by telling 18 year old recruits to take the music out of their life. Music is so important to life. Curious to see how this works out for UK.
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Post by dsqa on Sept 19, 2013 7:11:00 GMT -6
Agreed. Not that my opinion matters, but this research approach while probably true in one sense doesn't appear to be accounting for the equally significant issue of how protracted, or lengthy, micromanagement degrades motivation.
I don't know, it just seems strange to ask so much of a young man in college to give for a program, and then take away the only thing in his life on their campus that he feels he can have some control over...music? I don't know...may win a battle or two, but lose the war on this one...
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Post by John Knight on Sept 19, 2013 7:24:07 GMT -6
When we lifted in college (79-83) we listened to music every day, same 8 track over and over and it became like waterboarding! It included such 60s hits as teeny weeny, yellow polka dot bikini and alley oop! We all still know the words to Runaround Sue!!
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by CS on Sept 19, 2013 7:32:31 GMT -6
I can agree with the article and silky. From experience I don't like to workout without music being on. Something about makes me feel like my intensity level goes down. However, the atmosphere of a football game ESPECIALLY a college game is going to pump you up!
I get pumped with the atmosphere just going to the game! So in my opinion why not let them get pumped for lifting and get some more intensity from them?
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Post by spos21ram on Sept 19, 2013 8:18:23 GMT -6
Chip Kelly has music blaring at his practices. Not that one guy's method is right, but I think this article is a little BS.
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Post by fballcoachg on Sept 19, 2013 9:08:52 GMT -6
Same university that allegedly had lamps in their soccer locker room to increase vitamin d which would then increase speed...not sure I'm buying it all. May be some credibility but not enough to warrant me moving on it.
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Post by coachb0 on Sept 19, 2013 10:04:10 GMT -6
to limit the "level of arousal" of players might add to the thinking behind playing music in practices, like kelly does. kelly wants his players to not be infected by noise and the chaos of the surrounding and thus practices it to stay calm and under control under the same circumstances.
the same might be true with excitement. you dont want your players to be so excited, that they lose focus. of course, motivation is important, but to limit excitement in your everyday life to boost it in a game might lead to lose control in those games.
that said, i like playing music at practice and in the weightroom to motivate them for this time. most players are motivated enough, when its gametime. not as much, when they have to practice or workout. thats why, i think, more excitement in practice leads to more results and thus i accept a little less excitement in the game. this of course exemplifies my view, that games are won in practice.
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Post by brophy on Sept 19, 2013 10:07:37 GMT -6
maybe the link is bad or something, but the video cut off before the S&C guy supported his assertion with "scientific evidence" (i.e. he didn't provide any clear connection that music is a crutch for peak performance)
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Post by John Knight on Sept 19, 2013 10:19:30 GMT -6
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Post by John Knight on Sept 19, 2013 10:21:06 GMT -6
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Post by brophy on Sept 19, 2013 12:18:10 GMT -6
I watched Korem's 13 minute explanation, but this is the same thing we've known about since Boyd Epley in the 90s (periodization, nutrition, muscle system training, recovery). Korem reminds me of a guy who has a lot of time on his hands and is looking to quantify common knowledge with all types of (unnecessary) metrics. Must be nice to hook up every player up to an EKG and compile vitals for a few practices.... The removal of music...sure, you can pump yourself up without music....but this is 1% of actual impact. As a HS coach, I would think I'm trying to squeeze every bit of effort out of all our kids in the 28 months I get to train, because most aren't elite athletes.
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Post by John Knight on Sept 19, 2013 12:30:17 GMT -6
I am in no way agreeing with him or promoting his ideas, just thought it would make good discussion. Usually someone that is doing something new is trying to sell something!
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Post by brophy on Sept 19, 2013 12:36:52 GMT -6
I think a viable option would be to increase the number of mean, stray dogs near your feeder programs to develop explosive muscle fiber in adolescents that will be growing up in your program.
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Post by olinecoach70 on Sept 20, 2013 6:33:11 GMT -6
I think a viable option would be to increase the number of mean, stray dogs near your feeder programs to develop explosive muscle fiber in adolescents that will be growing up in your program. awesome comment!!! I thought it was cool when I read it and even tweeted this original article, but I like the idea of music in practice and the weight room to keep up tempo, intensity and get the kids used to the distractions of game day.
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Post by joboo59 on Sept 21, 2013 20:12:40 GMT -6
I think a viable option would be to increase the number of mean, stray dogs near your feeder programs to develop explosive muscle fiber in adolescents that will be growing up in your program. "We need more dogs." Bennett Presser
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