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Post by husky44 on Sept 15, 2013 8:27:37 GMT -6
Coaches,
We have a group of our starters who are decent football players who do not watch themselves on game film after games even after we provide constructive feedback on HUDL. We watch a short segment of both O and D on Sat. morning and then expect the kids who played to watch themselves over the weekend. We have found that 3-4 kids are not watching themselves. What would you do? The sad part of this is that they are making the same mistakes on game day.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2013 8:41:08 GMT -6
Coaches, We have a group of our starters who are decent football players who do not watch themselves on game film after games even after we provide constructive feedback on HUDL. We watch a short segment of both O and D on Sat. morning and then expect the kids who played to watch themselves over the weekend. We have found that 3-4 kids are not watching themselves. What would you do? The sad part of this is that they are making the same mistakes on game day. they don't know how. As long as it is optional, and I understand you cant it make it "mandatory", they will only do what they have to do. Kids will always take the shortcut if you let them. Teach kids how to watch film. SImple enough. I teach them 5 general fronts. I teach weak, strong reductions I teach the base with an offset and cocked nose. Bow and boss or backers over weak and backers over strong I teach them how they determine who they block from that. When we do film, guess what the O-line has to tell me. I don't tell them. And they cant play for me and not know. I Do JV O-line. |
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Post by fantom on Sept 15, 2013 8:53:27 GMT -6
Coaches, We have a group of our starters who are decent football players who do not watch themselves on game film after games even after we provide constructive feedback on HUDL. We watch a short segment of both O and D on Sat. morning and then expect the kids who played to watch themselves over the weekend. We have found that 3-4 kids are not watching themselves. What would you do? The sad part of this is that they are making the same mistakes on game day. As much as I love HUDL I don't believe that it's a replacement for watching film as a group. This is one reason. Another is that there's no one there to explain why they were right or wrong. Even if you provide notes, I don't believe that that has the same effect as live teaching. |
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Post by Coach Huey on Sept 15, 2013 11:13:08 GMT -6
Coaches, We have a group of our starters who are decent football players who do not watch themselves on game film after games even after we provide constructive feedback on HUDL. We watch a short segment of both O and D on Sat. morning and then expect the kids who played to watch themselves over the weekend. We have found that 3-4 kids are not watching themselves. What would you do? The sad part of this is that they are making the same mistakes on game day. As much as I love HUDL I don't believe that it's a replacement for watching film as a group. This is one reason. Another is that there's no one there to explain why they were right or wrong. Even if you provide notes, I don't believe that that has the same effect as live teaching. I assume you give homework in your class. or you require outside reading, outside/independent study of various topics prior to a test. I assume, as a teacher, you teach them when you have them in class but also provide avenues where they can enrich this teaching when they are at home. That is what Hudl does. So, watch film with them as a group (you are the classroom teacher) and teach them. Then, provide them the opportunity to watch film on their own by providing notes on Hudl (you are assigning homework & outside reading as the teacher). How? It's like any other aspect of a program... you have to make kids see the importance of getting better. they must see the relevance & relationship between watching film & correcting mistakes & getting better as a player. If they don't want to get better then any punishment is just that... punishment. |
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Post by fantom on Sept 15, 2013 11:24:19 GMT -6
As much as I love HUDL I don't believe that it's a replacement for watching film as a group. This is one reason. Another is that there's no one there to explain why they were right or wrong. Even if you provide notes, I don't believe that that has the same effect as live teaching. I assume you give homework in your class. or you require outside reading, outside/independent study of various topics prior to a test. I assume, as a teacher, you teach them when you have them in class but also provide avenues where they can enrich this teaching when they are at home. That is what Hudl does. So, watch film with them as a group (you are the classroom teacher) and teach them. Then, provide them the opportunity to watch film on their own by providing notes on Hudl (you are assigning homework & outside reading as the teacher). How? It's like any other aspect of a program... you have to make kids see the importance of getting better. they must see the relevance & relationship between watching film & correcting mistakes & getting better as a player. If they don't want to get better then any punishment is just that... punishment. I agree but the OP said that they watch a short segment which took to mean that they don't watch the whole film as a group. |
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Post by husky44 on Sept 15, 2013 19:47:52 GMT -6
No we do not watch the whole film. We watch about 45 min. to an hour of film and then lift and have the kids out in under two hours. We never get through more than a few series on each side of the ball. We ask that they watch the rest of the film with comments on their own.
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Post by coachsmi0901 on Sept 15, 2013 21:02:54 GMT -6
No we do not watch the whole film. We watch about 45 min. to an hour of film and then lift and have the kids out in under two hours. We never get through more than a few series on each side of the ball. We ask that they watch the rest of the film with comments on their own. Maybe the thing that would be helpful is trying to narrow down the amount of film you require your players to watch by creating cutups that focus on your main teaching points? Have your position coaches create playlists that are specific to their positions and share that playlist to the position group. The problem we have isn't having the kids watch film, it's having them watch film for the right reasons. We have kids that want to watch film of themselves to say how great they did, rather than trying to watch for improvements, or to watch scout film for the upcoming opponent. |
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Post by ramcoachdc on Sept 16, 2013 11:46:41 GMT -6
No we do not watch the whole film. We watch about 45 min. to an hour of film and then lift and have the kids out in under two hours. We never get through more than a few series on each side of the ball. We ask that they watch the rest of the film with comments on their own. you get 45-hour more than we get...when we went to HUDL our HC ended team film sessions. I end up spending twice as much time emailing HUDL notes to players as what i could explain in one hour of film with less than half the success. For offense I get 45 min Monday, 70 Tues, 70 Wed, 30 Thurs on field that is it. Defense gets less time, 30-60-60-30. We are 0-3. |
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Post by dcchan4 on Sept 16, 2013 18:48:32 GMT -6
We watch together, you don't come watch, you don't play.
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Post by orion320 on Sept 16, 2013 19:30:42 GMT -6
We watch film in group on Saturday - defense then offense, while those who aren't watching film. We expect kids to watch film on their own at home but we aren't sticklers about it. Most of our kids watch it on their own but you don't have any clue what they are actually watching on hudl.
We also watch film for 30 minutes after each practice.
Every time we watch film I have the kids fill out a sheet on what they or their position did and how they can improve on it. This is like having the kids take notes on the lectures. I will then spot check a few to make sure they are being honest.
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Post by Coach Huey on Sept 16, 2013 19:48:09 GMT -6
i recommend you not watch film as a team. not nearly as efficient as watching film only in position groups. you can get much more out of the time spent in the meeting. no need for the receiver to watch a play over and over while the OL coach is talking to the left tackle. you can now take a 30 minute session and make it seem much longer because you can be specific to your kids.
if you are concerned about meeting rooms - just use classrooms in the school. all you need is the internet. if you play both sides of the ball ... do 30 minutes on offense, 30 minutes on defense or split it however. you can grow by leaps and bounds through studying yourself on film. and this is enhanced by being very specific and to the point with little wasted time (i.e. waiting to go to next clip because the rb coach has to continue talking to the rb about the last play).
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Post by RedRaider on Sept 16, 2013 22:52:57 GMT -6
We watch together on Mondays then I give them a test that needs to be answered and the only way is to watch film on the clips I slelevted on the test. Usually about 15-20 clips. Teams will play very vanila against us because of our tempo so we don't spend much time on it. But this way I know they watched the film to answer the questions. Test has to be back the very next day so I will be collecting them tues in the meeting prior to practice. If anyone doesn't do it they have 240's
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Post by mholst40 on Sept 18, 2013 13:12:09 GMT -6
We watch film as an offense/defense on Saturday mornings for 1 hour on each side of the ball. I would love to meet with just position groups, but we don't always have our full defensive staff Saturday mornings due to work/some coach our youth teams.
After watching as a group, I will continue to use HUDL and write notes on every play. It helps me "grade" film and allows me to continue to constructively criticize players. I do not share the game film with players until I have finished the notes. I also create a code word that I place randomly in the notes. Players who text or email me the code word receive helmet stickers for watching film.
Every week the players turn in defensive HW on Monday where they list 3 things they did well, 3 things they need to improve, 3 things the defense did well and 3 things the defense needs to improve. Thy also list their best play and a reason why it was good as well as their worst play and why it was bad.
Those who turn in HW receive helmet stickers. You'd be surprised the type of buy-in you get from kids who simply get rewarded with a sticker. This has been much more effective than punishing kids for not doing stuff.
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Post by tigerpride on Sept 19, 2013 8:30:11 GMT -6
Every student in class will not do the homework. Every player will not watch their film by themselves. bad idea in my opinion to put this on the kids. HUDL is great on a smartboard and you can draw and correct mistakes and teach them right there.
With that said, kids cannot stay focused for a long period of time, so if you rewinding a play 5 times in a row, you are probably not going to get thru the whole film. Be careful in what plays you are rewinding. We usually watch about 3 quarters of the game.
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Post by 5wide on Sept 27, 2013 14:12:35 GMT -6
Weird, my players absolutely love HUDL and watching themselves on tape, making their highlight films and scouting opponents. Almost all of the kids on the team log at least a couple hours a week going through the game film, practice, and opponent scout
Some of them even watch more film than I do.
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Post by coachwoodall on Sept 28, 2013 21:21:11 GMT -6
I am a conceptual thinker by nature, but I think if you teach the game this way and in turn watch film this way, you'll get you kids more interested in film study.
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Post by tbelding on Oct 3, 2013 19:51:03 GMT -6
Coaches, We have a group of our starters who are decent football players who do not watch themselves on game film after games even after we provide constructive feedback on HUDL. We watch a short segment of both O and D on Sat. morning and then expect the kids who played to watch themselves over the weekend. We have found that 3-4 kids are not watching themselves. What would you do? The sad part of this is that they are making the same mistakes on game day. Focus on those mistakes during the week. |
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