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Post by nltdiego on Aug 31, 2013 2:55:05 GMT -6
Coaches,
I want to hold kids accountable for penalties. Do you guys punish or have gassers for penalties on Monday? Etc? How do you handle it?
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Post by coach2013 on Aug 31, 2013 3:23:53 GMT -6
Updowns.
One for every yard.
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Post by coachd5085 on Aug 31, 2013 6:21:55 GMT -6
Coaches, I want to hold kids accountable for penalties. Do you guys punish or have gassers for penalties on Monday? Etc? How do you handle it? I would be wary of punishing for all penalties. Punishing a guy for a holding penalty because he was overmatched and busting his butt to try and do his job may prove counterproductive. Same with pass interference situations. Mental or lack of focus penalties... (false start, encroachment etc.) Same with personal fouls. |
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Post by rsmith627 on Aug 31, 2013 7:30:50 GMT -6
Coaches, I want to hold kids accountable for penalties. Do you guys punish or have gassers for penalties on Monday? Etc? How do you handle it? I would be wary of punishing for all penalties. Punishing a guy for a holding penalty because he was overmatched and busting his butt to try and do his job may prove counterproductive. Same with pass interference situations. Mental or lack of focus penalties... (false start, encroachment etc.) Same with personal fouls. I disagree on holding. Usually guys hold because they got their butts beat and don't want to look stupid. With that said, I always make sure to watch the film first. We have had a few phantom holding calls on kids. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Aug 31, 2013 7:35:20 GMT -6
I would be wary of punishing for all penalties. Punishing a guy for a holding penalty because he was overmatched and busting his butt to try and do his job may prove counterproductive. Same with pass interference situations. Mental or lack of focus penalties... (false start, encroachment etc.) Same with personal fouls. I disagree on holding. Usually guys hold because they got their butts beat and don't want to look stupid. With that said, I always make sure to watch the film first. We have had a few phantom holding calls on kids. I am not saying all holding penalties stem from a player trying to make a super heroic effort against a superior foe. I am just saying that there is a difference between lack of focus penalties, lack of self control penalties, and poor technique penalties. |
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Post by coachphillip on Aug 31, 2013 8:00:45 GMT -6
I disagree on holding. Usually guys hold because they got their butts beat and don't want to look stupid. With that said, I always make sure to watch the film first. We have had a few phantom holding calls on kids. I am not saying all holding penalties stem from a player trying to make a super heroic effort against a superior foe. I am just saying that there is a difference between lack of focus penalties, lack of self control penalties, and poor technique penalties. Yup. I had a penalty last night called on our running back for "leading with his head when he had the ball." If I make a broad sweeping penalty rule then we'd get 15 gassers for him trying to get extra yards. I tell my defense that we will have penalties for lazy play. Then, when we watch film, I point out the lazy plays. I also take penalties off for perfect effort plays. Can't be entirely negative. |
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Post by orion320 on Aug 31, 2013 16:46:15 GMT -6
Only run for mental mistakes (offsides, false start, breaking huddle with 12 men, etc) We had a kid yesterday get a facemask call on offense for stiff arming. That's a football play and the team should not be punished for it.
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Post by rsmith627 on Aug 31, 2013 18:09:20 GMT -6
Only run for mental mistakes (offsides, false start, breaking huddle with 12 men, etc) We had a kid yesterday get a facemask call on offense for stiff arming. That's a football play and the team should not be punished for it. Exactly. If it was a stupid penalty (he was trying to rip the kids head off), then punish the team. If it was a football play where his hand brushed the face mask, it wasn't intentional. Our RB is out for a week because he got ejected for throwing a punch. Emotions overcame him, and now the team suffers because of stupidity. We cannot afford to be down a player. |
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Post by nltdiego on Sept 1, 2013 9:13:06 GMT -6
So what do they run?
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Post by fantom on Sept 1, 2013 9:30:10 GMT -6
I think that it makes more sense to punish players for penalties that they commit during practice.
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Post by orion320 on Sept 1, 2013 15:20:37 GMT -6
My guys run a variety of sprints, do sled pushes, our 4 corners conditioning, we change it week to week.
Week one was this week, the kids absolutely hate ANGEL SPRINTS - run in place, up down, sprint 20 yards down and back, keep running in place.
Next week - 4 corners - group kids into 4 groups, at each corner of practice field they do an exercise for 30 seconds (burpies, push-ups, sit ups, leg lifts, etc.)
Following Week - sled pushes 1 for each penalty yard. It seems like a lot but usually by week 3 our stupid penalties don't happen but once or twice a game.
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Post by dubber on Sept 1, 2013 19:23:21 GMT -6
sprints x number of penalties.........only if we lose.
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Post by joker31 on Sept 2, 2013 16:00:17 GMT -6
Stadium stairs for each penalty, 2 for personal foul penalties. I am liking the idea of seeing the penalties though, such as the stiff arm penalty said above.
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Post by fantom on Sept 2, 2013 16:39:33 GMT -6
Stadium stairs for each penalty, 2 for personal foul penalties. I am liking the idea of seeing the penalties though, such as the stiff arm penalty said above. So why punish them? |
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Post by joker31 on Sept 2, 2013 16:56:23 GMT -6
Stadium stairs for each penalty, 2 for personal foul penalties. I am liking the idea of seeing the penalties though, such as the stiff arm penalty said above. So why punish them? Because if there's a bad call/flag, they shouldn't be punished for doing something correctly. That's the refs fault, not theres. If you punish them for it, they'll be hesitant to do it the next time. |
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Post by jsk002 on Sept 4, 2013 10:16:10 GMT -6
I think that it makes more sense to punish players for penalties that they commit during practice. I agree with this. |
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Post by rystaylo on Sept 4, 2013 10:27:37 GMT -6
if we get a block in the back on a return, the player has to do 15 up downs, plus every yard they cost us on the return.
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Post by dtinnerstet on Sept 9, 2013 15:19:05 GMT -6
We only make players run for personal foul penalties. If you get a PF in a game on Friday you have a "Dirty 3" on Monday. "Dirty 3" is 300 yards of belly slammers every 5 yards. Kids are usually dead after 200 yards and the last 100 yards is pretty funny to watch. Last season, we had a player accumulate over 1,00 yards of dirty's for the season... needless to say he was in pretty good shape by the end of the year.
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Post by Defcord on Sept 9, 2013 17:26:34 GMT -6
I read it in a clinic manual but we say "No DAP" Dumb-a-penalities. We are the judges. We make them go a 100 yards and at every 5-yards they have to do the number of updowns of yards their penalty hurt the team. These are things you can control. Personal fouls, blatant blocks in the back, just basically dumb-a-penalties. I got kicked out of a freshmen game my first year as head coach (all my fault) so they asked me to do 30 updowns for 100 yards...i did it after practice one day that week (well they think i did at least because i started when the last few guys were leaving and as soon as they were out of the parkng lot i was done...not the most honest i guess but they loved it). If a kid has 15 yarder or something more we sometime will segment so that he does so many yards before practice, so many yards during a period he isn't active in, and then the rest after...
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Post by maxotis on Sept 9, 2013 23:08:17 GMT -6
The thing with holding is if a kid get's beat you'd probably rather have them hold than allow a player to tee off on the QB. You don't want the kids out there afraid to get penalties. False starts are one thing, but sometimes penalties just happen
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Post by fantom on Sept 10, 2013 11:37:06 GMT -6
I read it in a clinic manual but we say "No DAP" Dumb-a-penalities. We are the judges. I think that this the way to go if you're going to punish for penalties. Not all penalties are created equal. A bang-bang personal foul that could have gone either way is not the same as a two second late hit. A kid who gets called for pass interference while playing the ball is not the same as one who gives the receiver a two-hander in the back. I'm afraid that if you have a blanket policy of punishing all penalties you run the risk of robbing kids of their aggressiveness. |
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Post by fantom on Sept 14, 2013 15:23:04 GMT -6
I read it in a clinic manual but we say "No DAP" Dumb-a-penalities. We are the judges. I think that this the way to go if you're going to punish for penalties. Not all penalties are created equal. A bang-bang personal foul that could have gone either way is not the same as a two second late hit. A kid who gets called for pass interference while playing the ball is not the same as one who gives the receiver a two-hander in the back. I'm afraid that if you have a blanket policy of punishing all penalties you run the risk of robbing kids of their aggressiveness. Anybody who watched the Alabama-A&M game got a great example. If you're Saban how can you punish the kid who got called for targeting and almost ejected? Yeldon, who made the "money" sign after his TD, should probably have to run gassers at halftime. |
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