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Post by goose2w1 on Aug 26, 2013 21:05:58 GMT -6
Coach's,
I have a bit of a moral dilemma. In our league, the ages are 10-12 with a ball carrier weight limit of 135 and a field limit of 165. Well one or our returners weighed in the other day at 185. I don't know if our commissioners just turned a blind eye to it or forgot their own rules, but they didn't say anything. Well at our first practice in pads today, this kid wrecked everything in front of him. He out weighs some of our kids by more than 100 lbs. Being that he is so big, he almost ripped the helmet of one of his team mates and almost tore the kids head off. The HC just wants to look the other way on this since the commissioners said nothing. In good conciseness, I don't think I could look any parent in the eye if this kid seriously hurts someone, and we knew he was 20 lbs over the limit. I want the kid to play football, but it's my view the parents knew the weight limits and should have had their son play for the middle school. Am I wrong or looking too deep into this. Has anyone else experienced anything similar?
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Post by Chris Clement on Aug 26, 2013 21:51:57 GMT -6
What "kind" of lbs is he over the limit? he sounds like he's the sort of big kid that's actually strong and can defend himself at the higher level. If he was tubby and defenseless I'd be inclined to let it slide rather than get him killed.
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Post by fantom on Aug 26, 2013 23:58:14 GMT -6
Coach's, I have a bit of a moral dilemma. In our league, the ages are 10-12 with a ball carrier weight limit of 135 and a field limit of 165. Well one or our returners weighed in the other day at 185. I don't know if our commissioners just turned a blind eye to it or forgot their own rules, but they didn't say anything. Well at our first practice in pads today, this kid wrecked everything in front of him. He out weighs some of our kids by more than 100 lbs. Being that he is so big, he almost ripped the helmet of one of his team mates and almost tore the kids head off. The HC just wants to look the other way on this since the commissioners said nothing. In good conciseness, I don't think I could look any parent in the eye if this kid seriously hurts someone, and we knew he was 20 lbs over the limit. I want the kid to play football, but it's my view the parents knew the weight limits and should have had their son play for the middle school. Am I wrong or looking too deep into this. Has anyone else experienced anything similar? Besides doing it because it's the right thing you should have the kid play MS ball because somebody will look into it. The kid's not 4 pounds over, he's 20 pounds over. Sooner or later if the kid's shredding people somebody's going to protest. |
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Post by goose2w1 on Aug 27, 2013 7:07:48 GMT -6
This kid is a very good player, and I'm not sure the local MS will let him walk on three weeks after they started. I think i am going to have a talk today with he HC and his parents. We need to do the right thing for him and ensure the safety of the other players.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2013 9:31:15 GMT -6
Coach's, I have a bit of a moral dilemma. In our league, the ages are 10-12 with a ball carrier weight limit of 135 and a field limit of 165. Well one or our returners weighed in the other day at 185. I don't know if our commissioners just turned a blind eye to it or forgot their own rules, but they didn't say anything. Well at our first practice in pads today, this kid wrecked everything in front of him. He out weighs some of our kids by more than 100 lbs. Being that he is so big, he almost ripped the helmet of one of his team mates and almost tore the kids head off. The HC just wants to look the other way on this since the commissioners said nothing. In good conciseness, I don't think I could look any parent in the eye if this kid seriously hurts someone, and we knew he was 20 lbs over the limit. I want the kid to play football, but it's my view the parents knew the weight limits and should have had their son play for the middle school. Am I wrong or looking too deep into this. Has anyone else experienced anything similar? Besides doing it because it's the right thing you should have the kid play MS ball because somebody will look into it. The kid's not 4 pounds over, he's 20 pounds over. Sooner or later if the kid's shredding people somebody's going to protest. Greg is dead, on and Ill add to this.. suppose this kid hurts someone, while you knowingly played him 20lbs heavier than the maximum limit,!... In this day and age of instant litigation, Its way too much of a liability , especially if the weights are a guideline. |
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Post by fantom on Aug 27, 2013 9:57:57 GMT -6
This kid is a very good player, and I'm not sure the local MS will let him walk on three weeks after they started. I think i am going to have a talk today with he HC and his parents. We need to do the right thing for him and ensure the safety of the other players. Since the coaching staff is at least partially responsible for the kid being in this position I think you owe it to him and his parents to help him transition. Somebody should call the MS coach, explain the situation, and ask them to take the player even though it's late. |
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Post by goose2w1 on Aug 27, 2013 21:16:24 GMT -6
Thanks for all the inputs coach's. We'll we talked to our league commissioners today and found out they are total idiots. Apparently half our commissioners believed the weight limit was 155, the the half believed it was 185. How the hell is it that the folks that write the rules, don't know them. So over the last two years, being overweight depended on who weighed you in. RIDICULOUS! Well anyways they are going to officially call the max weight 185 lbs. As big and as good as this kid is, he won't learn much in our current league and unfortunatly the MS refuses to take him since they have been going for a month all ready.
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Post by coachcb on Aug 28, 2013 7:16:36 GMT -6
The commissioners will be very aware of the player after your first game....
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Post by goose2w1 on Aug 29, 2013 21:52:54 GMT -6
We'll he is not allowed to be a ball carrier (135 lbs max), but in our split back and diamond offense, he is going to be the bull-dozing fullback.
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Post by coachcb on Aug 31, 2013 14:19:03 GMT -6
We'll he is not allowed to be a ball carrier (135 lbs max), but in our split back and diamond offense, he is going to be the bull-dozing fullback. All eyes will be on that kid as soon as he walks out on the field. We had two eighth graders last year that were both nearly 190lbs and very athletic. We plugged them in on the OL and DL and were b-tched at all year by the league about their "rough play". They were never actually FLAGGED for anything but were offending everyone's fragile sensibilities by plowing people. |
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Post by goose2w1 on Sept 1, 2013 15:10:50 GMT -6
We're ready for that. We sat the kid and his parents down to brief them up on what to expect. Most of his plays will be o-line and d-line with some use as FB. We're all pretty prepared for what we are going to be up against. The kid is excited to play and ready to go, so I think it will be a good year.
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