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Post by jgordon1 on Aug 9, 2013 3:35:11 GMT -6
I went for a job interview to be one of these new recruiting office guys at a college the other day. One of the questions I was asked was, as a current hs coach, what can we as college recruiters, do better during the recruiting process? thought that was a great question. My answer was that I wished you guys wouldn't string us out so long and give us a more honest assessment of of where our kids are in the recruiting process..of course I had to continue to say that I understood why they did it as they have to keep kids alive..How would you have answered
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Post by newhope on Aug 9, 2013 5:41:48 GMT -6
Be honest. I like most of them. However, when they're not honest,I don't have much use for them anymore. Don't mistreat my kids...period.
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Post by fantom on Aug 9, 2013 12:35:54 GMT -6
I went for a job interview to be one of these new recruiting office guys at a college the other day. One of the questions I was asked was, as a current hs coach, what can we as college recruiters, do better during the recruiting process? thought that was a great question. My answer was that I wished you guys wouldn't string us out so long and give us a more honest assessment of of where our kids are in the recruiting process..of course I had to continue to say that I understood why they did it as they have to keep kids alive..How would you have answered In random order: 1. Honesty. Don't make any promises on the spur of the moment. If you have no interest in a kid don't say "Maybe". If our kid is your Plan B tell us. If you're recruiting a kid for a different position be honest about it. We might not agree but we're (mostly) big boys and in the long run we'll respect you for it. 2. Keep the HC in the loop. If gets really infuriating to hear from a kid that he's been hearing from a college. 3. If you're coming to the school tell us when you're coming, be as punctual as possible, and show up. We teach classes and can't just walk away if you show up unannounced. We have to make arrangements and it's really annoying to get somebody to cover a class then have you not show up. 4. (Before I type this one I have to say that I'm in a densely populated, highly recruited area. I realize that this isn't possible everywhere) If you regularly recruit our area don't come by our school only when you know that we have a stud. You have a better chance at our kids if we have a previous relationship. 5. Be VERY careful about the negative recruiting. The kid will tell us about it and you may be bad-mouthing guys who we know. 6. If you miss and don't get one of our kids don't cover your a$$ with boosters by bad-mouthing our kid, school, or program. 7. Don't be an a$$hole. We had a guy show up and introduce himself like this: "Coach ___, University of ___, National Champions", then hold up his ring two inches from our HC's face, like the Pope letting us kiss his ring. The HC threw him out. |
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Post by RedRaider on Aug 10, 2013 7:05:52 GMT -6
The honesty. If he expects me to be honest with him about a kid that play but has a horrible attitude I shoul expect the same honesty. But I've been on both sides and I've had HC corner me and try to make me offer his kid on the spot. Pi$$ed me off so much we took that kid of our list. Figured if the HC was like that how was the kid.
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Post by Chris Clement on Aug 10, 2013 9:33:20 GMT -6
Why would a teenager share a personality with his coach?
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Post by hollyhood27 on Aug 10, 2013 20:30:53 GMT -6
Enough with this non-committal offer stuff. Either offer so our kids can commit or don't.
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Post by coachcb on Aug 11, 2013 10:09:04 GMT -6
I hate it when guys recruit on potential, not on actual proven ability.
Several years ago, we had a very, very athletic group of kids with a track record of hard work in the weight room and talent. But, they were all passed up by the FCS schools in the area in favor of our seventh best OL. He was a big, athletic kid but he just didnt hit the weights hard enough to start and only played after a couple kids went down.
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Post by fantom on Aug 11, 2013 10:45:24 GMT -6
I hate it when guys recruit on potential, not on actual proven ability. Several years ago, we had a very, very athletic group of kids with a track record of hard work in the weight room and talent. But, they were all passed up by the FCS schools in the area in favor of our seventh best OL. He was a big, athletic kid but he just didnt hit the weights hard enough to start and only played after a couple kids went down. Get used to it because it isn't going to change. All college recruiting is based on potential. None of our HS players have a proven track record against college players. |
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Post by coachcb on Aug 11, 2013 18:57:36 GMT -6
I hate it when guys recruit on potential, not on actual proven ability. Several years ago, we had a very, very athletic group of kids with a track record of hard work in the weight room and talent. But, they were all passed up by the FCS schools in the area in favor of our seventh best OL. He was a big, athletic kid but he just didnt hit the weights hard enough to start and only played after a couple kids went down. Get used to it because it isn't going to change. All college recruiting is based on potential. None of our HS players have a proven track record against college players. I realize this but, in the situation I described, they only had two games worth of film on the kid and he graded out lower than the rest of the OL. |
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Post by fantom on Aug 11, 2013 19:12:52 GMT -6
Get used to it because it isn't going to change. All college recruiting is based on potential. None of our HS players have a proven track record against college players. I realize this but, in the situation I described, they only had two games worth of film on the kid and he graded out lower than the rest of the OL. There's a kid at our school right now who I've never seen play. He played JV two years ago before I got there and was academically ineligible last year. This year he kept promising us that he wanted to play and would be coming ti weights but never did. During the May evaluation period a friend of mine who coaches in college saw him in the halls and called me up and told me that we HAD to get the kid out and get him to their one-day camp. Neither happened so the kid blew a golden opportunity. Why was the college coach so excited? The kid's 6'8" and about 320 lbs and the few times that he came to workouts he showed good feet. In the meantime, our 5'10" 250 pounder who was a really great HS player is going D.3 and I wasn't surprised. As the saying goes, they can teach the 6'8" kid to play football but they can't make the 5'10" kid 6'8". |
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Post by Chris Clement on Aug 11, 2013 20:13:39 GMT -6
If a college coach takes a small kid and he doesn't turn out he looks like an idiot. If he takes a big kid who doesn't turn out he can blame the kid for "not wanting it." Since his job depends on bringing in good players he's naturally inclined toward ones that don't threaten his job should they not turn out.
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Post by rpetrie on Aug 11, 2013 21:05:32 GMT -6
Definitely be more up-front. If you say you're going to offer...then do so. IF it really is dependent upon seeing him perform then make that statement so the kid doesn't think you are just trying to pick up another $50 camp fee...and ask for full game film. If you have no interest in the kid, say thank you and move on...maybe should never be used.
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