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Post by dthomassee on Jan 5, 2007 10:00:37 GMT -6
Guys,
this is my first post! I've been a member for quite some time and have used a great deal of the ideas that are shared. I have a problem that is probably common to most coaches that put together offensive packages. Formations and motions and different sets start to get very word when put all together. My question is how can I simplify the formation names to cut back on all the jargon. What do you guys use?
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Post by throwtherock on Jan 5, 2007 10:12:45 GMT -6
We are no huddle, so we use one word names for our formations:
Ray - Lee
Rodeo - Lasso
R - L
Right - Left
Rock - Land
and a few more
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chewy
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Post by chewy on Jan 5, 2007 11:05:35 GMT -6
I like the idea of building formations to positions. Have a HOME set like Doubles. From there certain positions have spots to go if they hear it in the call. If they dont hear it, they line up at HOME.
F: Slot, Pro, Twins, Wing, Trips
FB: Stg, Wk, I, Open, Closed
Y: Tite, Flex
I think u can get the picture.
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Post by wingt74 on Jan 5, 2007 11:26:04 GMT -6
Make common plays (I-Left 4 long motion 33 Lead) shorter by assuming things (Motion 33 Lead)
In my offense, I left is the base formation...so it's always assumed. Any motion is assumed to the 4 back and long (across the formation).
So to run I-Left 4 long motion 33 Lead.
We just need to call Motion, 33 Lead.
Make things assumed to shorten up your common plays.
Formation (assume I-Left)
Shifting (No assume)
Motion (back, and type) (Any motion defaults to 4 back and long unless specified)
Back & Hole
Blocking Scheme / Backfield Action
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coache
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Post by coache on Jan 5, 2007 11:39:06 GMT -6
Go No-Huddle and signal everything with hand jestures. Really simplified everything for us. Each word that you have in your playcalling jargin - has a hand signal.
Coach E
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Post by coachbw on Jan 5, 2007 12:10:30 GMT -6
In the past, we have always used a key word (home spot) with tags. This year we are going to try to use one word for everything but have the words make sense. Some of the things we have come up with so far are:
Pro = Pro
Slot = Slot
Tite=Tite
Pring = Pro with a wing
Sling = slot with a wing
Ting =Tite with a Wing
Slit = Slot with a split
We are still stuck on what to call two or three formationis, but are thinking that this will keep terminology minimal while still having it make sense. We talked about using ram/lion, rip/liz etc but don't think those words really have meaning to the kids and it ads a step in their thinking.
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Post by coachbw on Jan 5, 2007 12:15:13 GMT -6
Oh . . . and in reply to your question on motion terminology, we are getting rid of that this year by tying our motion into the formation. For example, every time that we are in a pro we are going to have the flanker motion, he can chose to motion in, out, or use return (zig zag) motion. All he has to know is that he will need to end up in a pro formation. I know this may not allow us to get the specific motion we want paired with a formation and play, but the biggest reason we use motion is to put stress on the defense. With that in mind, we can't think of a better thing to do than use motion on every play.
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Post by gunslinger on Jan 5, 2007 12:51:10 GMT -6
Another thought would be to "package" plays.
One word could convey the formation, series, and play.
Example:
Say one of your favorite things to do is to go Shotgun, Bunch Right and run some variation of Coverdale/Robinsons Mesh pattern with 6-man protection.
Have a name (let's say Texas) that conveys that formation, 6 man protection, and the basic route.
Longhorn could be the same play/formation to the left.
So in a game all that you signal or say is "Texas."
Your kids know that is Bunch Right Gun 60 Mesh.
If you want to run a variation off the base route you just add that tag..."Texas Shake."
Your kids know that is Bunch Right Gun, 60 Mesh Shake
Another Example (from the old Run and Shoot)...
Gangster Pass Right (Kids know the formation, motion, the protection, the route, etc.)
Kids can really identify with this series/package method and are incredibly capable of mastering the offense if you are a good teacher.
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Post by lukethadrifter on Jan 6, 2007 19:32:49 GMT -6
try to keep the names of formations to one word with only one syllable - less to say - easier to understand
playin' it cool - Luke
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Post by Coach Huey on Jan 6, 2007 19:56:13 GMT -6
if you are a TE oriented team (traditional 2-back personnel) then basically you only have 2 formations --- pro and twins. this, of course is without regard to backfield alignment. however, you basically have 4 -- I, off-set strong, off-set weak, and split (could get more in-depth, but 4 is pretty standard depending on overall schemes you run, but, most teams will only use about 4)
so, what you really want to focus on is what you are calling "Pro" and what you are calling "Twins". then, set the backs.
example: R - pro right (TE / Flanker right) .... L is opposite
use your "base" backfield set as the standard rule. example: I is what you are. so, R is also I for the backfield (now you don't need an "I" term). right now, your players are onlly learning 2 things (r/l) and the backs learn 3 (light, heavy, split). With these "moving" terms for the fullback (light, heavy, slot, wing) you can move him around to get into a variety of sets. however, only one player has to learn anything, really. If you want a TE right, with slot left (flanker right, also) ... well, call "R Slot" ... R indicates the TE, Flanker, Split end to align according to "R" i.e. pro right. "slot" is a moving term for the fullback that tells him to go away from the TE. What you have now done is created a system in which you can align in a variety of formations without having a great deal of memorization (i.e. giving every formation a completely new name). Yes, your formations are typically 2 words (if you want to move the fullback or adjust the backfield from the I) but the plus-side is that the chances for a mixup (i.e. do i go right on ricky? or is it randy? .. lol)
now, address a name for the twins formation (rag / lace). use the same moving terms by the fullback (rag wing ... rag heavy, etc.) again, limited amount of memorization yet multiple formations.
can do same thing (with moving terms) when you replace the fullback with a 3rd receiver. Twins, Pro, etc. Terms can be whatever, of course, but the X, Z, Y don't have to memorize any other formations ... pro-twins set?? "R Twins". X, Y, Z align in R and the 3rd receiver is aligns in "twins" -- i.e. #2 weak.
I won't bore you with the entire formation system we use. You can use any terms you choose. But, I would like to point out that this system is based on limiting pure memorization. X, Y, Z learn 4 terms (R, L, Rag, Lace). The fullback (and the 3rd receiver) each learn 4 things (FB - heavy, light, wing, slot /// 3rd rec - twins, pro, wide, loose). a rule we use, is that we want our formations to never be 4 words, and rarely 3. (a 3 might be R Pro Squeeze -- with squeeze merely compressing the R Pro formation .. again, eliminating memorization of more formations).
take a look at what formations you want, and how you might be able to utilize a system such as this. it has its con's, of course, but i feel it cuts down on the #1 cause of mistakes ... forgetfullness (i.e. too much memorization required).
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