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Post by coachjps on Jul 8, 2013 21:37:38 GMT -6
I wanted to get your thoughts about having your starting QB play both ways. We haven't done it in the past but he is out best corner and thinking about playing him in situations, Back up is one of our receivers and we are a spread team.
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Post by coachbdud on Jul 8, 2013 21:42:11 GMT -6
Our QB spot played at FS and SS last year
It wasnt the pounding that we were so much worried about, strong tough kid... It was just the more tired out he got on defense it hurt us on O
He was a running Qb and our best pass plays were sprint out
The offense thrived on him running a lot
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Post by mattharris75 on Jul 8, 2013 22:10:36 GMT -6
Our QB starts at middle linebacker too.  You do what you have to do to win games. If it's the difference in winning and losing, then the answer is clear. Frankly, playing him at corner, and only situationally, wouldn't make me think twice if it made our team better... |
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Post by veerman on Jul 8, 2013 22:19:33 GMT -6
One of best players I have ever been on field with played QB and MLB, he set multiple state records at QB, and had well over 100 tackles his jr and sr years. Kid was stud, he never came off field, and took terrible team to back to back semis almost by himself. I say that cause the years after he graduated, they struggle to win 1 game.
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Post by groundchuck on Jul 9, 2013 3:21:28 GMT -6
You have to have your best kids on D because you can't hide chicken-{censored} out there. That being said if there is a way for me to not play my QB every down on D I will do it. Our QB started two games in the middle of the season last year and played well. He is also our long snapper on the punt team. You have to do what you have to do to win games.
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Post by racehorse on Jul 9, 2013 3:48:40 GMT -6
Is your QB playing tired still better than your back-up?
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Post by blb on Jul 9, 2013 5:37:09 GMT -6
There was a thread on this subject earlier this year.
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Post by s73 on Jul 9, 2013 5:43:24 GMT -6
We have done this 6 of the last 8 seasons. We play our best players regardless. IMO you can't coach scared. If he's going to make you better out there on both sides of the ball I think you play him for the GUARANTEED fact that he makes you better rather than the fear that he MIGHT get hurt.
In other words, for us, the chances were 100% we were a better team with him on defense v. the unknown chances that he might get hurt.
Again, just my opinion, but based on talent, we've needed him on defense and he was easily one of our best defenders. For us, it was a no brainer. We treat our QB no different than anyone else. I feel like it gives us a blue collar type of feel to our team and I really believe our QB's wouldn't have it any other way. None of our QB's have ever shown not wanting to be on D.
Again, just my opinion.
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Post by newhope on Jul 9, 2013 9:06:27 GMT -6
To me, it comes down to how good is your backup QB compared to your backup corner and can you win without the QB playing defense. If your backup QB can't carry you some, you might want to think twice. However, if you can't win with your QB not playing defense, what do you have to lose?
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Post by Chris Clement on Jul 9, 2013 10:45:54 GMT -6
There was a thread on this subject earlier this year. There's a thread on this subject every year. To me, injuries are a question of probability, position is vastly overrated in terms of injury risk. If he's the best player the logical answer is to play him as much as possible all the time, and then pull him as soon as you have the game in hand. That's just how I see the math. |
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Post by Coach Sunzeri DB's on Jul 9, 2013 13:52:00 GMT -6
Ask yourself if you'd ever be willing to have him return punts for you. If the answer is yes then playing him on defensive side of the ball is a no-brainer.
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Post by Chris Clement on Jul 9, 2013 15:42:53 GMT -6
Fran Tarkenton was Georgia's punt returner.
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Post by blb on Jul 9, 2013 16:24:07 GMT -6
Fran Tarkenton was Georgia's punt returner. That's because Substitution rules were much different then. And most guys on here (including you) aren't anywhere near old enough to know who-what Fran Tarkenton was. |
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Post by Chris Clement on Jul 9, 2013 16:58:05 GMT -6
Fran Tarkenton was Georgia's punt returner. That's because Substitution rules were much different then. And most guys on here (including you) aren't anywhere near old enough to know who-what Fran Tarkenton was. Please, my dad has fond memories of him gaming the Intentional Grounding rules of the era. |
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Post by jlenwood on Jul 9, 2013 16:59:08 GMT -6
We did it the last 2 years. 4 year starting QB, and his JR and SR year he was our starting safety. We found ways to give him a rest on D when we could, but he was on the field 90% of the time.
I was always against this before we did it with him, but the reality is to win games you have to PLAY your best, and he was one of them.
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Post by jsk002 on Jul 9, 2013 17:23:13 GMT -6
I started my first team all conference corner at QB. We ran power read.
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Post by holmesbend on Jul 9, 2013 21:21:51 GMT -6
Started ours both ways last year. Couldn't afford not having him out there. Actually, he was our best DB returning and we needed a QB.
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Post by fballcoachg on Jul 10, 2013 6:42:59 GMT -6
Hindsight, we should have atleast played him part time on D. Had capable back ups on both sides but neither were him.
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Post by pain on Jul 10, 2013 7:09:18 GMT -6
We are in the exact position this year. Our QB is by far our best athlete and best coverage kid. That said, we can sit him in the middle of our schedule. Our first 2 and last 2 games are going to be tough. The middle five he can just play QB. Playoff time? He'll be playing both sides of the ball.
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Post by mariner42 on Jul 10, 2013 9:05:47 GMT -6
We are in the exact position this year. Our QB is by far our best athlete and best coverage kid. That said, we can sit him in the middle of our schedule. Our first 2 and last 2 games are going to be tough. The middle five he can just play QB. Playoff time? He'll be playing both sides of the ball. I like this approach. If there's certain games where he's NEEDED to play, then he plays. If you'll win without him (we all have those teams on the schedule), then develop some depth by playing someone else, maybe you find a player by doing so. I've never been scared to play QBs on defense except in 2011. We literally had one QB in the entire program, the back up wasn't 1/4 of the player our starter was. We should've had someone who could fill in for him just in case, but didn't. So we protected the heck out of him and only played him one way. I still think he could've really helped us at OLB, but there was just no way we could afford to lose him. |
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Post by newhope on Jul 10, 2013 14:19:42 GMT -6
We are in the exact position this year. Our QB is by far our best athlete and best coverage kid. That said, we can sit him in the middle of our schedule. Our first 2 and last 2 games are going to be tough. The middle five he can just play QB. Playoff time? He'll be playing both sides of the ball. Agree 100 percent |
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Post by IronmanFootball on Jul 10, 2013 20:21:11 GMT -6
2013 Depth:
1- QB and FS/PK/P12th
2- QB and FS 11th
3- QB and FB/LB 9th
had 2 QBs last year. One played QB/RB/WR, DL/LB/DB KR/PR... Other played QB/TE/WR, LB/CB/FS, PK/P
combined for 1600 yards, 20 TDs and 70 tackles w/ 4INTs. + 5 FGs.
Don't love the idea but athletes are just that and kids are resilient.
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Post by Coach Sunzeri DB's on Jul 11, 2013 13:03:10 GMT -6
Fran Tarkenton was Georgia's punt returner. Really? That's cool. |
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You do what you have to do to win games. If it's the difference in winning and losing, then the answer is clear.
