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Post by coachbozwhs on Jul 2, 2013 12:16:40 GMT -6
Common dilemma for many of us and believe me I have been here before. We are busting at the seems w/skill player talent, but as usual our line will make or break us in this coming year. On my own w/both lines this year (O and D, varsity and JV, 9th-12th) 25-30 lineman total. As I said I have been here before, but this year is we should be a playoff team. Looking to pick your collective brains on how to balance quality reps for varsity without neglecting the development of younger guys. Will have 7-8 seniors on varsity 2 deep then it drops to almost all sophs and freshmen. Solid on drills, techs and assignments, just looking for efficiency. Thanks
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Post by Underdeveloped on Jul 2, 2013 12:31:33 GMT -6
Man that is alot of guys for one coach. In a perfect world you find a helper (maybe a parent or volunteer guy). Drilling that many in indy time will be tricky enough let alone finding time in team for 3 groups. Spend about 25 or 30 min of practice doing indy/scheme tech with just linemen. During team it is varsity for 15you jv for 10you until jv games start. Then we scale back a bit on team with them and give them a big thursday.
Good luck
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Post by coachbozwhs on Jul 2, 2013 12:47:22 GMT -6
Man that is alot of guys for one coach. In a perfect world you find a helper (maybe a parent or volunteer guy). Drilling that many in indy time will be tricky enough let alone finding time in team for 3 groups. Spend about 25 or 30 min of practice doing indy/scheme tech with just linemen. During team it is varsity for 15you jv for 10you until jv games start. Then we scale back a bit on team with them and give them a big thursday. Good luck Thank you Matt, for some reason with 65 players total I am swamped w/"linemen". we are looking for a quality "helper", but have to approach it as if it is only me. INDY time is the problem as you addressed, just looking for efficient work. Full head of hair is thinning...good input and again thanks. |
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Post by wingtol on Jul 2, 2013 19:48:13 GMT -6
Not sure how your drills are set up or what your doing but I would set it up where varsity guys would do the drill one at a time and have the jv guys do it like 3 at a time and try to just see what you can with the young guys. For example if you were doing a 1 on 1 blocking drill I would have the varsity guys do it one group at a time but then have 3 jv groups go at once so everyone is doing something and getting reps, you may not be able to coach it up a ton with the young guys but I am sure no one will get fired for the jv teams record if ya know what I mean.
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Post by coachbozwhs on Jul 2, 2013 20:57:26 GMT -6
Not sure how your drills are set up or what your doing but I would set it up where varsity guys would do the drill one at a time and have the jv guys do it like 3 at a time and try to just see what you can with the young guys. For example if you were doing a 1 on 1 blocking drill I would have the varsity guys do it one group at a time but then have 3 jv groups go at once so everyone is doing something and getting reps, you may not be able to coach it up a ton with the young guys but I am sure no one will get fired for the jv teams record if ya know what I mean. Good advice, very similar to what I have done. I have also mirrored drills...varsity to the right jv to the left, same drills just give varsity two reps for each jv rep until jv "gets it" then 1 for 1. Key is to teach guys "how to practice" and keep tempo up while not breaking form/technique. Thanks coach |
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Post by dubber on Jul 2, 2013 21:21:16 GMT -6
That's a ton of guys for 1 coach.
I would use drills so that everyone gets reps, but focus on your starters.......only some much coaching to go around, focus on your Friday night guys.
Special teams time is a good time to take young guys off and do some coaching.
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Post by coachbozwhs on Jul 2, 2013 21:30:30 GMT -6
That's a ton of guys for 1 coach. I would use drills so that everyone gets reps, but focus on your starters.......only some much coaching to go around, focus on your Friday night guys. Special teams time is a good time to take young guys off and do some coaching. Like the idea about using special teams time...I start the season with lineman, then I get all of the guys who can't "cut it" at skill positions. It gets crazy, second school this has happened at. Thanks dubber |
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Post by dubber on Jul 3, 2013 8:01:45 GMT -6
That's a ton of guys for 1 coach. I would use drills so that everyone gets reps, but focus on your starters.......only some much coaching to go around, focus on your Friday night guys. Special teams time is a good time to take young guys off and do some coaching. Like the idea about using special teams time...I start the season with lineman, then I get all of the guys who can't "cut it" at skill positions. It gets crazy, second school this has happened at. Thanks dubber Yeah, it isn't right to put a kid at line just because he isn't "skilled" enough I would be throwing a chit fit in the staff meeting.........."your 5' 3'' WR with bricks for hands is your problem. My individual is not a place for collecting your cast offs", etc. You should only move kids if it helps the team.........not to just get them out of your hair |
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Post by blb on Jul 3, 2013 8:36:30 GMT -6
How many coaches in your program?
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Post by coachbozwhs on Jul 3, 2013 8:45:04 GMT -6
How many coaches in your program? We have 6 for varsity and JV HC/DC OC(78yrs old) ASST OC/QBs WRs/DBs LBs ME OL/DL |
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Post by blb on Jul 3, 2013 8:53:06 GMT -6
Speaking as a guy with 29 years' HC experience - with six coaches it's ridiculous you don't have a JV line coach.
One coach with 25-30 players is a potentially dangerous situation, too.
Your head coach is the problem. You have my sympathies.
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Post by fantom on Jul 3, 2013 9:25:42 GMT -6
How many coaches in your program? We have 6 for varsity and JV HC/DC OC(78yrs old) ASST OC/QBs WRs/DBs LBs ME OL/DL What do the HC and LB coach do on offense? |
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Post by coachbozwhs on Jul 3, 2013 10:16:53 GMT -6
We have 6 for varsity and JV HC/DC OC(78yrs old) ASST OC/QBs WRs/DBs LBs ME OL/DL What do the HC and LB coach do on offense? HC works with RBs and QBs LB coach is JV HC and works w/WRs Yeah, I know  |
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Post by fantom on Jul 3, 2013 10:27:07 GMT -6
What do the HC and LB coach do on offense? HC works with RBs and QBs LB coach is JV HC and works w/WRs Yeah, I know You need to talk to the HC and get him to get you some help. Two guys working with QBs, two for WRs, an OC who doesn't have a position, and you have 30 guys? That's crazy. |
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Post by jturner on Jul 3, 2013 10:30:00 GMT -6
Coach,
One thing you might be able to do is use the age and experience of the seniors to your advantage. They should be rather experienced in technique and your blocking schemes by this point in their careers. What you can do is use them as coaches for the younger/less experienced players. For instance, if you are working on block progression, have your first guys demonstrate the technique, then have them watch the people in their line to see if they are doing the technique right or not.
They always say that you don't truly know something until you can teach it. Teaching technique and blocking schemes to the younger guys will help them out in the long run.
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Post by coachbozwhs on Jul 3, 2013 10:44:06 GMT -6
Coach, One thing you might be able to do is use the age and experience of the seniors to your advantage. They should be rather experienced in technique and your blocking schemes by this point in their careers. What you can do is use them as coaches for the younger/less experienced players. For instance, if you are working on block progression, have your first guys demonstrate the technique, then have them watch the people in their line to see if they are doing the technique right or not. They always say that you don't truly know something until you can teach it. Teaching technique and blocking schemes to the younger guys will help them out in the long run. Excellent, good point about teaching reinforcing their knowledge. |
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Post by newhope on Jul 3, 2013 11:08:29 GMT -6
Agree on 2 points others have made: staff is poorly organized by HC in having one guy with that many linemen and on using your seniors to help with the younger players.
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Post by newt21 on Jul 8, 2013 13:34:43 GMT -6
when i coached oline i had the 3rd guy in line watch the first guy in line. this way he can give feedback while the 2nd guy gets his reps and so on and so forth. guys giving eachother feedback while others getting reps, always learning and it forces guys to steal reps when they're not physically in there
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