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Post by 33coach on Jun 25, 2013 12:26:40 GMT -6
here is the situation,
every park,campus, etc has turned down our request to use space for football practice, stating that "it destroys the grass". they only allow soccer and softball....
does anyone have any suggestions on how to dispute that? is there any statistical (or legal) route that can be taken?
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Post by bobgoodman on Jun 25, 2013 14:20:26 GMT -6
Find a lot where the grass has already been destroyed.
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Post by 33coach on Jun 25, 2013 14:21:59 GMT -6
Find a lot where the grass has already been destroyed. i really just cant believe that they believe football is harder on grass then soccer...and id love to see stats that prove it. |
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Post by coachbdud on Jun 25, 2013 15:04:03 GMT -6
Soccer is the worst
Huge divots
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Post by Chris Clement on Jun 25, 2013 16:36:00 GMT -6
It's because many coaches run big 11-11 or Oklahoma drills over and over in the same spot.
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Post by austinator on Jun 25, 2013 20:39:03 GMT -6
I practiced in an open field at a park or at the Boys and Girls Club last season. No lines, no hashmarks, no yard markers but it did the trick. Looking back, I probalby should have had at least one practice or walk through on a lined field so the players get the lay of the land
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Post by linecoach79 on Jun 26, 2013 2:24:13 GMT -6
We had the same problem, Not sure where you are located but we had our tax paying parents write letters to our alderman and he worked the park district on our behalf,
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Post by utchuckd on Jun 26, 2013 7:37:57 GMT -6
I can believe it. Bunch of skinny kids running all around the field and taking dives vs. a group of men in training running into each other in the same spot for a couple hours. Like CC said it's prolly cause mosr coaches stay in one spot all day.
I've had to do the find an open field practice before and that's where having a couple fire hoses come in real handy. Local fire department has had plenty of old used hose they've been happy to donate when I've asked. I've also used a 20-30 foot rope as a line of scrimmage. Whatever works.
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Post by CatsCoach on Jun 26, 2013 9:47:57 GMT -6
Find a lot where the grass has already been destroyed. i really just cant believe that they believe football is harder on grass then soccer...and id love to see stats that prove it. We use to have that issue with soccer more than a few years ago now with one of our fields |
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Post by linecoach79 on Jun 26, 2013 9:49:39 GMT -6
Baseball tournaments give us a problem at start of season. No help from local hs. When i win lotto i am buying us some land first.
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Post by mahonz on Jun 27, 2013 15:40:26 GMT -6
here is the situation, every park,campus, etc has turned down our request to use space for football practice, stating that "it destroys the grass". they only allow soccer and softball.... does anyone have any suggestions on how to dispute that? is there any statistical (or legal) route that can be taken? Parks are typically developed thru Bonds or Mandate agreements thru the Developer of the area. They are for public use by the community. The P&R Dept is there to maintain them and to rent them back to the community. The classic double dip on the tax payer. They cant say no if its written up in the agreements voted on or mandated by the people that they are open to all sports and public functions. IE....some will not allow an open air Concert due to noise restrictions....some will never be open for business at night due to what they call Night Sky Pollution. You have to read the fine print. I can guarantee it wont read....sokker yes....football no. Its up to the P&R Dept to fix grass so they can charge sokker X and football Y. I'd look into that. The head of the P&R Dept is typically an appointed or elected position so they hate bad PR. They also have monthly meetings that you can attend. They are a public entity. As far as School District facilities ( campus?). They can tell you to pound sand even though they were most likely built with public funds as well. |
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Post by davecisar on Aug 12, 2013 16:21:31 GMT -6
Ive used to run a program with 5 fields:
City Park- grassy open area
School Playground
High School practice field
Church Open Grassy area
Baseball Outfield
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Post by 33coach on Aug 12, 2013 21:39:45 GMT -6
Thanks for all the responses. The HS finally caved and came down in price.
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Post by coachphillip on Aug 12, 2013 22:52:25 GMT -6
They should have caved long ago. We have youth teams use out stuff all the time. We let them use the chutes, the sleds, the tires. We just make sure the president knows how to properly use the equipment and emphasizes to his coaches how much it will cost the youth league if they broke any of it. Its always the right time to do the right thing.
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Post by 33coach on Aug 12, 2013 22:56:43 GMT -6
They should have caved long ago. We have youth teams use out stuff all the time. We let them use the chutes, the sleds, the tires. We just make sure the president knows how to properly use the equipment and emphasizes to his coaches how much it will cost the youth league if they broke any of it. Its always the right time to do the right thing. They wanted $70 an hour for practices...(thats 14 weeks of 4 days a week 2 hours a day.. a lot of Money for a non profit) Got them down some... |
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Post by coachphillip on Aug 12, 2013 22:59:41 GMT -6
Do you guys feed into their school?
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Post by 33coach on Aug 12, 2013 23:03:34 GMT -6
Do you guys feed into their school? Yep |
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Post by coachphillip on Aug 12, 2013 23:15:06 GMT -6
Wow. That doesn't reflect too well upon that school. There's a school up here that has a feeder program. They say they're independent of each other but they play and practice on the same fields, have the same mascot, the same uniforms, run the same offense and defense, and even let them into high school games free if they wear their jerseys. You should always look out for your feeder programs. Otherwise, they're going to be feeding someone else.
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Post by 33coach on Aug 12, 2013 23:17:21 GMT -6
Wow. That doesn't reflect too well upon that school. There's a school up here that has a feeder program. They say they're independent of each other but they play and practice on the same fields, have the same mascot, the same uniforms, run the same offense and defense, and even let them into high school games free if they wear their jerseys. You should always look out for your feeder programs. Otherwise, they're going to be feeding someone else. That's what I'm looking to do.. there are a few private schools around here that I'm going to talk to...because the public ha is just charging us for everything (and its not a poor school by any means...) |
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