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Post by coachmoore42 on Jun 15, 2013 11:46:44 GMT -6
Do the math, 130 kids x $25,000 (min private school tution probably) = $3,250,000.00. I am pretty confident in saying that a D3 football program does not need $3 mil to function. Very little of that money goes to support the football program. None of the actual tuition money is supposed to go there. To the original post, it's a shame that parents waste money on that stuff. Way too many think that Junior is a D1 and NFL prospect. Now that they are making offers to 7th and 8th graders, this is only going to get worse... |
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Post by wingtol on Jun 15, 2013 13:44:53 GMT -6
Do the math, 130 kids x $25,000 (min private school tution probably) = $3,250,000.00. I am pretty confident in saying that a D3 football program does not need $3 mil to function. Very little of that money goes to support the football program. None of the actual tuition money is supposed to go there. To the original post, it's a shame that parents waste money on that stuff. Way too many think that Junior is a D1 and NFL prospect. Now that they are making offers to 7th and 8th graders, this is only going to get worse... Yeah I would also have to say that is not the way it works with the money from players tuition going right to the football team. We have had a bunch of guys go D3 and they actually have gotten some nice grant/aid packages that have driven the cost way down. Of course these were guys that the schools recruited pretty hard, not the ummm sure come on down and play guys at D3. As far as parents again I like to point out that there are about 1.2 MILLION boys playing football in High School. So about 300k Sr's. About 100 D1 schools with max 25 full rides every year so about 2500 full ride D1 guys a year. Out of 300,000. Not to mention JUCO guys and stuff like that. The you need to explain that all most all of those kids have offers by the end of their JR school year. So if a service is selling itself on getting a SR D1 $ they are full of it. |
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Post by coachd5085 on Jun 15, 2013 14:12:44 GMT -6
Very little of that money goes to support the football program. None of the actual tuition money is supposed to go there. To the original post, it's a shame that parents waste money on that stuff. Way too many think that Junior is a D1 and NFL prospect. Now that they are making offers to 7th and 8th graders, this is only going to get worse... Yeah I would also have to say that is not the way it works with the money from players tuition going right to the football team. We have had a bunch of guys go D3 and they actually have gotten some nice grant/aid packages that have driven the cost way down. Of course these were guys that the schools recruited pretty hard, not the ummm sure come on down and play guys at D3. As far as parents again I like to point out that there are about 1.2 MILLION boys playing football in High School. So about 300k Sr's. About 100 D1 schools with max 25 full rides every year so about 2500 full ride D1 guys a year. Out of 300,000. Not to mention JUCO guys and stuff like that. The you need to explain that all most all of those kids have offers by the end of their JR school year. So if a service is selling itself on getting a SR D1 $ they are full of it. I think that was Jlenwood's point. That carrying a big squad is an agenda pushed by the school, not necessarily the football program. That carried over to my point that the sites don't benefit the prospective athlete as much as it does the school (and of course, the site primarily) |
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Post by Chris Clement on Jun 15, 2013 14:12:59 GMT -6
Tuition money doesn't go straight to the football team, but it goes into the general budget, and universities want to maximize how many paying undergrads they have.
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Post by newhope on Jun 15, 2013 15:00:12 GMT -6
Those services can't do anything I can't do in getting a player recruited--except take money from the kids. Not only do we send film anywhere a kid is interested, we probably have 10-12 D3 schools come by the school every year and they get info on the kids. The ones who want a chance to play at the next level get it. I tell my parents every year "Don't spend money on recruiting services."
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Post by jlenwood on Jun 16, 2013 12:09:46 GMT -6
Very little of that money goes to support the football program. None of the actual tuition money is supposed to go there. To the original post, it's a shame that parents waste money on that stuff. Way too many think that Junior is a D1 and NFL prospect. Now that they are making offers to 7th and 8th graders, this is only going to get worse... Yeah I would also have to say that is not the way it works with the money from players tuition going right to the football team. We have had a bunch of guys go D3 and they actually have gotten some nice grant/aid packages that have driven the cost way down. Of course these were guys that the schools recruited pretty hard, not the ummm sure come on down and play guys at D3. As far as parents again I like to point out that there are about 1.2 MILLION boys playing football in High School. So about 300k Sr's. About 100 D1 schools with max 25 full rides every year so about 2500 full ride D1 guys a year. Out of 300,000. Not to mention JUCO guys and stuff like that. The you need to explain that all most all of those kids have offers by the end of their JR school year. So if a service is selling itself on getting a SR D1 $ they are full of it. I didn't mean the money went right to the football program, I meant it as the university having a quota for players. I know that happens as I have had a D2 coach tell me that, their school will set a quota number for players needed for the roster. That is money that goes into the school coffers. As far as grants/aid, that is stil real money the school gets even if it doesn't come from the student. The only time I think this kind of service would be worth it is if you have a coach or program that does nothing for the kids. Having Hudl does not mean you are going to have the contacts that a coach who makes this a priority will have. And most parents do not have the time or knowledge of where to send the highlights, or even where to send a kid to camps. I still think that a coach and the player, with a little bit of homework can make tis all hapeen for nothing but an investment of some time. |
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Post by mc140 on Jun 16, 2013 15:34:52 GMT -6
NCSA doesn't do anything a competent coach or kid who is Hudl Savvy can't do himself. Cannot assume that all coaches are competent an that all kids have access to HUDL. True but I know as long as I am where I am at we will never encourage a kid to join one of these services. |
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Post by airraider on Jun 16, 2013 19:56:50 GMT -6
Cannot assume that all coaches are competent an that all kids have access to HUDL. True but I know as long as I am where I am at we will never encourage a kid to join one of these services. I assume most of the kids who join these services have coaches that neither know nor care about any of it... And from my experiences, there are a lot of those coaches out there. |
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Post by theyoungballcoach on Jun 17, 2013 6:56:44 GMT -6
I know I am preaching to the choir here, as if you are the type of guy to spend June 17th on a football message board you are probably invested in the program and help out the kids. That being said, I think the site is great for kids who play for those coaches (you all know one) who don't care about the kid when their eligibility is used up, and only help there top prospects out. I can rattle off the names of some HS coaches in my area who help out any kid with a shot at a 1-A/1-AA scholarship (the kids who don't need any help) and won't even return a call to a D-3 school.
If you have hudl and you are a competent coach however, then I agree, sites like NCSA are completely unnecessary in that situation.
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