jet
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Post by jet on Dec 13, 2006 10:07:03 GMT -6
How do you guys deal with basketball coaches who only want the best athletes in the school to only play basketball? How do you get the basketball players out. Also looking for some ideas on how to get kids with really poor grades to raise their academics so they can play. That's the only thing missing at my new school the kids want to play, but their grades are terrible. Any help would be nice.
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Post by tog on Dec 13, 2006 10:16:04 GMT -6
work with them
or fire them
that is another great thing about football in Texas, 90% of the Head football coaches are the AD
they can make sure that the kids play all the sports to compete
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Post by spreadattack on Dec 13, 2006 10:17:36 GMT -6
How do you get the basketball players out. Show them a comparison of the number of football players who get college scholarships versus basketball players. Especially factoring in Div-II etc where they can break up their scholarships and put kids on partial scholarship. |
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roomc
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Post by roomc on Dec 13, 2006 10:41:01 GMT -6
Jet,
Set up weekly or bi-weekly grade checks. Communicate with the athletes about their grades....how they can improve, what they need to do, and if they need any extra help. Before you talk with the athlete s make sure to talk with the teachers. I have found out if you talk with teachers about athletes grades and the athletes will put forth a better effort things tend to swing in the positive direction.
I also have set up study tables! If they are receiving anything below a C- they must attend at least twice a week for at least an hour! I can have them go more if they need it. Here in Iowa they just passed a No Pass No Play rule! It has alot of crazy bi-laws....it has forced coaches to beon top of the academic game!
Coach it works, but it takes a lot of effort! At one point in the second trimester I had 21 out of my 50 returning varsity players with an F! Did all of the above and narrowed it right down to 3 or 4! If you need more details just holler! Good luck!
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Post by spreadattack on Dec 13, 2006 11:15:50 GMT -6
I wasn't the greatest student in HS, but I never understood how people get straight up Fs. There is the occasional kid who true troubles, but it's just a disregard for themselves. Further, having seen these kids on the field it is clear many of them are not exactly geniuses, but there's zero reason they should be straight up failing.
It blows my mind too because I've done all of the above as well-study tables etc, and in the short run it seems to work, they actually do some work and stop failing, but I'm always a bit wistful when I see those kids walk out the door because I and the other coaches are/were probably the last people who will push them to succeed in all spheres of life, and a disappointingly small fraction of them learn to push themselves when someone else isn't watching over their shoulder or when football isn't a part of their lives anymore.
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Post by sls on Dec 13, 2006 11:35:27 GMT -6
In 03 I was hired at a school that horrible football history and a very succcessful BB program. The BB coach was king and did not care much about football. The first thing I did was go to the BB coach and tell him that I was going to support him and that I would work around his schedule in the summer. The first year I got no help from him, but I worked hard at improving the football program and kissed his but. In year 3 he started to tell his kids to play football, I created a relationship and he saw the football players were working hard.
I still struggle with grades we do grade checks every 2 weeks and have required study table before school and I have still lost kids to grades. I lost 7 out of 62 this year, in 03 I lost 5 out of 39, we are doing better. You can lead the horse to water...
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roomc
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Post by roomc on Dec 13, 2006 12:10:00 GMT -6
Guys, I am not sure of the socioeconomical make up of your districts, but I thought I was being forced by our district to survive another one of those in services, but it was about poverty training. The whole thing deals with kids, poverty, and the why....when you look at behaviors of these people! Their is book A Framework for Understanding Poverty by Rudy K. Payne. Believe it or not it has been very helpful for me as coach and teacher and has help me through my approach to athletes and how to get them turned in a direction to be successful!
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juice10
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Post by juice10 on Dec 13, 2006 14:48:25 GMT -6
Kind of ironic, but I went to a presentation based on the book of Ruby Payne as well. One of the better in-service days that I can remember.
Off on a little tangent, but do any of you coaches have problems getting the basketball coaches to believe in the weightroom and allow their kids to lift?
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roomc
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Post by roomc on Dec 14, 2006 9:04:31 GMT -6
Jet, I am sorry for some odd reason everytime I try to PM you my computer freezes up!!!! I did not forget about you! I will keep trying!
The book by Rudy Payne is excellent and the theory/reasoning is almost scary! I would reccommend it to every coach out there!
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